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Post by Credo on Jun 29, 2019 22:56:04 GMT -8
Say what you want about the Donald, but his ongoing diplomatic outreach to North Korea is remarkable, something that no American president has been able to accomplish in 65 years. Not Reagan, not Bush, not Clinton, not Obama. Big time Presidential. You just know this is just killing the Left, who was desperately hoping Kim Jong-Un would "stand him up" and make the Orange Man look silly.
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Post by SK80 on Jun 30, 2019 5:28:04 GMT -8
With this historical undertone or is it an overtone, probably deserves its own thread here. Again it takes a certain type of person to be able to get the attention of the world in a manner that President Trump does. In a week he is shaking hands with Putin, Xi and now Un. There are only two things you can say here, he is either really a closet commie and comrade or eh is the true leader of the world that is getting the other powers respect. Trump is a world leader, Obama was a world follower.
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Post by RSM789 on Jun 30, 2019 11:02:56 GMT -8
...Trump is a world leader, Obama was a world follower... This is a statement that many will misinterpret. They will say how smart Obama was, how cool he acted and the way that he seemed to glide through his presidency. That is all well & good, but it has nothing to do with leadership. In the end, leadership is about getting results. Trump has that, Obama (& most people, myself probably included) doesn't. I made a similar analogy this morning to my wife, one that many sports people will find blasphemous. I wondered aloud if Mike Trout might not be a leader when it comes to winning. He is the most talented player in the game, mixed with humility, great work ethic and a cool demeanor. However, the team he is on just doesn't win and he doesn't show the leadership skills to help drag them over the finish line. How is it possible that he has never won a playoff game? That isn't attack of him or his talent, rather a criticism of the Angels to bring in the player or manager who could really lead the team. People will argue that the Angels need better pitching, that they need this or that, but they have more than enough talent both offensively & defensively to make the playoffs most years. What they are missing is that intangible, leadership to exploit their strengths and gloss over their weakness's. Maybe Trump would be willing to take on the Angels managerial duties come 2024...
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Post by Credo on Jun 30, 2019 20:32:56 GMT -8
Trump throwing shade to the preening Jim Acosta of CNN. Big plus.
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Post by Bick on Jul 1, 2019 7:52:28 GMT -8
Been even more funny if he said, "oh yeah Jim, terrified."
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Post by SK80 on Jul 1, 2019 8:45:55 GMT -8
Trump throwing shade to the preening Jim Acosta of CNN. Big plus. I mean its like its the bottom of the ninth every time with this guy is on the mound and he throws a 88 mph fast ball straight down the center of the plate with the bases loaded.... and Babe Ruth is the batter!
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Post by Credo on Jul 1, 2019 13:57:56 GMT -8
Democratic senator from Connecticut objects to Trump's outreach to Kim Jong-Un, but I suppose giving billions to Iran is okay? These guys are so predictable--they will oppose ANYTHING the President says or does, and they're either sidelining themselves from the process (along with the chance to get some free credit for any positive result) or painting themselves into policy corners out of knee-jerk anti-Trumpism. Trump is pro-life? Let's make ourselves as pro-abortion as possible. Trump opposes illegal immigration and wants a strong border? Let's oppose all border enforcement and even eliminate the concept of "illegal" immigration. And on and on it goes.
Their utter hatred for the man is destroying their party.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jul 1, 2019 14:19:29 GMT -8
Is there ANYONE in this country, who was surprised the Dems would criticize Trump for what happened at the DMZ?
No matter what he says or does, they will criticize it, and say he should have done the opposite. Like little children, they just might be susceptible to reverse psychology.
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 1, 2019 17:57:01 GMT -8
I'm kind of surprised that Kim didn't whip out a shiv, stick Trump in the abdomen & then push him back across the border.
If that had happened, how many lefties would have openly cheered?
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Post by Credo on Jul 5, 2019 0:52:59 GMT -8
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Post by Bick on Jul 5, 2019 6:44:28 GMT -8
Really good article considering most of the media was bashing him leading up to the event, and have focused on his airport gaffe.
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Post by Credo on Jul 5, 2019 20:05:13 GMT -8
Especially following on the heels of a month a non-stop celebration of all manner of vulgar displays of "pride", this was one of Trump's finer moments. And Dan Bongino absolutely nails one of Trump's best attributes (intentional or unintentional?), which is why I am confident he will win re-election WITH a popular vote majority.
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Post by not4u13 on Jul 6, 2019 7:39:47 GMT -8
I've not gone back and red this entire thread so sorry if this is redundant.
I don't like Trump. I was fine with him as a bold and brash businessman who was willing to lie and cheat to get ahead. It was and is his brand and he is very proud of it. His reality TV persona rewarded that behavior and he relished being the king and saying "you're fired".
Many American's (myself included) have grown tired of the political gamesmanship. Trump is so naive he doesn't even know when or how the game is being played. That's one of the problems I have with him. He has shown up to a cricket match with a basketball (so to speak) and he is lost. Continuously lost. He falls back on his old business practices and has created a revolving door of cabinet members and advisers. He rules with an iron fist and that's why he likes meeting with dictators. He loves a good dictator. He does well with dictators because that's how he likes to run a business. He doesn't do well with political figures, which includes leaders of most democratic societies.
A lot of people really like Trump for that quality. I get it. It's refreshing and new.
But the man lies. Constantly. He doesn't even care that he lies. It's inconsequential. That's the bottom line for me. He can't be trusted.
His liberal use of tariffs and tariff threats has caused great uncertainty in the markets and so far he has little to show for it. His agreement with Mexico on immigration was a paper tiger. Nothing material has changed and it won't. He realized that he really can't impose the tariffs and took a quick exit. NAFTA 2.0 isn't the huge improvement he has touted and it hasn't even been signed yet. His threat on the automotive industry to impose tariffs to protect American manufacturing has even the domestic brands crying foul.
Trump is basically an untrustworthy bully who whines when he doesn't get his way.
Take the most recent citizenship question for example. The Supreme Court ruled against him and he whined. They started printing the census and he whined. Now he's mulling an executive order to force the question onto the census, because he doesn't like anyone telling him what to do. A crybaby.
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Post by Bick on Jul 6, 2019 9:43:11 GMT -8
I've not gone back and red this entire thread so sorry if this is redundant. I don't like Trump. I was fine with him as a bold and brash businessman who was willing to lie and cheat to get ahead. It was and is his brand and he is very proud of it. His reality TV persona rewarded that behavior and he relished being the king and saying "you're fired". Many American's (myself included) have grown tired of the political gamesmanship. Trump is so naive he doesn't even know when or how the game is being played. That's one of the problems I have with him. He has shown up to a cricket match with a basketball (so to speak) and he is lost. Continuously lost. He falls back on his old business practices and has created a revolving door of cabinet members and advisers. He rules with an iron fist and that's why he likes meeting with dictators. He loves a good dictator. He does well with dictators because that's how he likes to run a business. He doesn't do well with political figures, which includes leaders of most democratic societies. A lot of people really like Trump for that quality. I get it. It's refreshing and new. But the man lies. Constantly. He doesn't even care that he lies. It's inconsequential. That's the bottom line for me. He can't be trusted. His liberal use of tariffs and tariff threats has caused great uncertainty in the markets and so far he has little to show for it. His agreement with Mexico on immigration was a paper tiger. Nothing material has changed and it won't. He realized that he really can't impose the tariffs and took a quick exit. NAFTA 2.0 isn't the huge improvement he has touted and it hasn't even been signed yet. His threat on the automotive industry to impose tariffs to protect American manufacturing has even the domestic brands crying foul. Trump is basically an untrustworthy bully who whines when he doesn't get his way. Take the most recent citizenship question for example. The Supreme Court ruled against him and he whined. They started printing the census and he whined. Now he's mulling an executive order to force the question onto the census, because he doesn't like anyone telling him what to do. A crybaby. The loudest arguments about Trump are centered around his style / persona, and very little about anything measurable. Pretty much everyone will stipulate he's probably the least polished, or likable president we've had in our lifetime. Here's the thing. I could care less about that. I want a strong economy, strong military, secure borders, and the gov't to stop finding more people to enable that need protection from themselves. People need to be encouraged to be self-reliant, not gov't dependent. These points are at the core of the differences between what I want, and what liberals want. It has nothing to do with Trump. He's just an easy target because he's so unpolished that he gets in his own way.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 6, 2019 9:53:55 GMT -8
The loudest arguments about Trump are centered around his style / persona, and very little about anything measurable. He's just an easy target because he's so unpolished that he gets in his own way. It's interesting that those who like or support Trump refer to his glaring human deficiencies as style, persona and unpolished. Those perhaps less enamored with him refer to them as lacking character, integrity, honesty and maturity. It's not style or lack of polish that makes a man repeatedly cheat on his wife or lie every time he opens his mouth.
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