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Post by sixthman on Jun 24, 2019 16:10:35 GMT -8
My guesses at the Preseason top 10 in the OC.
1. MD
2. JSerra
3. MV
4. LH
5. Servite
6. CDM
7. O Lu
8. SC
9. SM
10. Ed/LA
Others: YL, Tesoro, VP, SJH,
Any dark horses or glaring omissions?
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Post by Bick on Jun 24, 2019 16:25:08 GMT -8
My guesses at the Preseason top 10 in the OC. 1. MD 2. JSerra 3. MV 4. LH 5. Servite 6. CDM 7. O Lu 8. SC 9. SM 10. Ed/LA Others: YL, Tesoro, VP, SJH, Any dark horses or glaring omissions? Edison is not top 10. CDM ahead of LH. Not sure about San Clemente this year. |
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Post by SK80 on Jun 24, 2019 16:48:15 GMT -8
My guesses at the Preseason top 10 in the OC. 1. MD 2. JSerra 3. MV 4. LH 5. Servite 6. CDM 7. O Lu 8. SC 9. SM 10. Ed/LA Others: YL, Tesoro, VP, SJH, Any dark horses or glaring omissions? No way 6 - MAN! 6 - PACK! Dude that post you responded to on the other board with JQP was all false statements by him. FYI Not sure SC will be above LA IMHO. Anyone have a beat on the Tritons? Maxpreps is knocking them down as well from 2018. |
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Post by SK80 on Jun 24, 2019 16:51:18 GMT -8
Edison is not top 10. CDM ahead of LH. Not sure about San Clemente this year. I agree somewhat, Bick you probably have a better handle on Sunset and Edison. CDM should start ahead of LH based on last year and every other number/calculation out there however with Zanelli and CPIII I think they are on par with CDM. Bigger question now to you Bick, is LA going to be better, about the same or a step back from last season? |
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Post by Zebra on Jun 24, 2019 18:22:47 GMT -8
Our crew worked that game last year. SC fumble just before that allowed CDM the opportunity to score. Me @ 1:16 by the 4th down marker and pylon at the end. Awesome game! Thats you...  It is .. been a Head Lineman (Now called Down Judge) for 19 years now, same crew chief for the last 17. Most guys find a different position but I like the interaction with the chain crews, players and coaches (most of the time). Bonus is I'm on the screen alot in games because I'm always across from the press box. Reminds me of stalking the sidelines in my coaching days. |
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Post by sixthman on Jun 24, 2019 19:27:24 GMT -8
La Habra had some dudes at the Scandrick and their best we was not the OSU commit. They always have outstanding line play so I’d put my money on them head to head v CDM. Servite is the real wildcard here. Not sure if they could have beat many of the top public schools last year. But this may be a big year of growth for the program.
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Post by Bick on Jun 24, 2019 20:10:49 GMT -8
Edison is not top 10. CDM ahead of LH. Not sure about San Clemente this year. I agree somewhat, Bick you probably have a better handle on Sunset and Edison. CDM should start ahead of LH based on last year and every other number/calculation out there however with Zanelli and CPIII I think they are on par with CDM. Bigger question now to you Bick, is LA going to be better, about the same or a step back from last season? I think Los Al will be better than last year. We were literally the walking wounded the whole season starting with game 1 v. Vista Murr. I think we had 3 inside backers go down, one on the first defensive play of the game. Our starting QB injured his knee and was hobbled the entire year. Somehow we stayed in the game v the top teams, and upset poly. In the Edison game after the CDM tie, both starting WR who also worked in at DBs were ejected in the early going, so they weren't available for Westlake in first round of the playoffs. How we beat them is beyond me. Against Notre Dame in the qtrs, all 3 of our RBs, 2 WRs and 2 DBs were out. Somehow, we kept it close but ended up losing. The point of all that is that the coaching staff at Los Al is pretty damn good. If we can stay even remotely healthy, we'll be better than last year. |
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jun 24, 2019 21:07:00 GMT -8
La Habra had some dudes at the Scandrick and their best we was not the OSU commit. They always have outstanding line play so I’d put my money on them head to head v CDM. Servite is the real wildcard here. Not sure if they could have beat many of the top public schools last year. But this may be a big year of growth for the program. .  |
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Post by Bick on Jun 25, 2019 10:18:12 GMT -8
SK80 - back to Los Al for a second. I usually don't get very encouraged during passing league because, frankly, we haven't been very good at it the past 3 seasons.
We've generally struggled during passing league, but because we're more physical, we still do pretty well when the pads come on.
This year, we beat calabasas twice in the Scandrick tourney, and they've got 3 kids in the Rivals CA top 100 at QB / WR. Lost by a score to LH in the semis, and they've got a couple top 100 kids. We don't have any, but still acquitted ourselves pretty nicely.
We should be strong on defense again, assuming we can stay upright.
Being camp Champs doesn't mean much in Nov / Dec, but I'm a little more optimistic than in past years.
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Post by Bick on Jun 25, 2019 10:20:47 GMT -8
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Post by SK80 on Jun 25, 2019 10:50:53 GMT -8
SK80 - back to Los Al for a second. I usually don't get very encouraged during passing league because, frankly, we haven't been very good at it the past 3 seasons. We've generally struggled during passing league, but because we're more physical, we still do pretty well when the pads come on. This year, we beat calabasas twice in the Scandrick tourney, and they've got 3 kids in the Rivals CA top 100 at QB / WR. Lost by a score to LH in the semis, and they've got a couple top 100 kids. We don't have any, but still acquitted ourselves pretty nicely. We should be strong on defense again, assuming we can stay upright. Being camp Champs doesn't mean much in Nov / Dec, but I'm a little more optimistic than in past years. Didn't make it to Scandrick but if you beat Calabasas in a passing tourney very impressive. Here is Sixth man's top 10 I'll use that as a starting point and will make my departures. sixthman Jun 24, 2019 17:10:35 GMT -7 sixthman said: My guesses at the Preseason top 10 in the OC. 1. MD 2. JSerra 3. MV 4. LH 5. Servite 6. CDM 7. O Lu 8. SC 9. SM 10. Ed/LA Others: YL, Tesoro, VP, SJH, Any dark horses or glaring omissions? Edison is not top 10. CDM ahead of LH. Not sure about San Clemente this year. ~ Bick
Agree with you here Bick, looking at the calpreps numbers in for state they would have the OC teams ranked like this, state rank in parenthesis. 1) Mater Dei (1)
2) Mission Viejo (9)
3) Corona del Mar (15)
4) J. Serra (16)
5) La Habra (24)
6) Servite (27)
7) Orange Lutheran (33)
8) Santa Margarita (35)
9) Villa Park (38)
10) Los Alamitos (40)
So Bick, as I also stated Sc and you Edison not in the top 10. Calpreps has SC (85) and Edison (104) Question for MDDad, since you seem to be always on with your numbers..... how the heck is CDM ahead of J Serra? Mind you, they have had a great rise and run the last few years and are gaining momentum as a program climbing the divisional ranks but are the losses J Serra taking hitting them harder than the wins CDM is accumulating. In no way would I put CDM above J Serra but I also think CDM has got to this place based on some pretty good performances. You don't climb arbitrarily. @6man, dark horses? Correct, Calpreps has SJH (69, Tesoro (75) and YL (84). All three ahead of SC and Edison. I think south county teams SJH and Tesoro are rising. Not sure VP will be what they were without Piferi at QB now. Did anyone step into that role? And YL is likely not going to beat SC or Edison regardless of the ranks here. |
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Post by MDDad on Jun 25, 2019 15:08:27 GMT -8
Question for MDDad, since you seem to be always on with your numbers..... how the heck is CDM ahead of J Serra? Mind you, they have had a great rise and run the last few years and are gaining momentum as a program climbing the divisional ranks but are the losses J Serra taking hitting them harder than the wins CDM is accumulating. The Calpreps preseason rankings are based on several factors. One is a team's ranking and power rating at the end of the previous season. Another is the number of quality players a team graduated, and how many they have returning. And a third is the input from the head coach or coaching staffs of the team. Any coach can easily downplay or overestimate his team's quality for the upcoming season, depending on what we wants to accomplish with the preseason rankings. In summary, I'd like to say preseason rankings mean nothing, but the truth is that they mean even less than that. |
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Post by Bick on Jun 25, 2019 15:27:41 GMT -8
I'm with the Poachmaster General on this one. 😂
Those preseason calpreps ratings are "fluid" to say the least.
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Post by Luca on Jun 25, 2019 15:40:54 GMT -8
So, 10 out of the top ranked 72 players in California (which has about 1000 high schools) are at St. John Bosco. What are the chances? Boy, they must have some really, really good coaches there......................................Luca |
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Post by SK80 on Jun 25, 2019 15:52:01 GMT -8
Well of course they are, but I believe Calpreps puts a lot into it. If I am a coach I wouldn't be over hyping my players either! Interesting you note they take into consideration returning or strength of players. Is it possible the numerous D1 guys are pushing CDM up? I also ran through a lot of the OC public schools on Maxpresp where they have power rankings and SOS for 2018 and looking ahead to 2019, seems almost every top public I looked at has an easier schedule or SOS due to so many publics continuing to drop in strength. The schools like Downey, San Clemente and Edison all on CDMS 2019 schedule are ranked lower than 2018 thus CDM has a lesser SOS for 2019.
Bick take a look at "team preview" for Los AL on Maxpreps. Ratings out now for 2019.
LOS ALAMITOS
2018 Final Power Rating 47.7
2018 National Rank #281
2018 State Rank #39
Off-Season Rating Adjustment 1.6*
2019 Starting Power Rating 35.3*
2019 National Rank #293*
2019 State Rank #40*
Dynasty Rating (avg. rating 2003-18) 43.7
Dynasty National Rank #311
2019 Rating vs. Dynasty Rating worse by 8.4*
Dynasty Record 130-52-1 [129-53-1 on the field] (58-21-1 in league)
I'm sure you can slice and dice a lot of prognosis, preview of the upcoming team and season. All understood right, it's why they play the games! By the way, another team coming up fast I feel is Lawndale, every year I pick my wildcard gonna shock the world team, not calling them that just yet but I have been spot money the last 3 years picking out Sierra Canyon, then Cajon and last year Grace Brethren.
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