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Post by vilepagan on Nov 21, 2019 4:06:34 GMT -8
Run out of your own words, Credo?
Or is it that you want plausible deniability should trumo end up getting ousted?
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Post by Bick on Nov 21, 2019 9:28:18 GMT -8
Close the curtain on this charade. I think we're kidding ourselves if this ends up being anything less than pure partisan politics pursuing power. See what I did there, Luca? The impeachment process has been weaponized by the political ruling class. But I do think the majority in the middle are able to see thru the charade.
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Post by MDDad on Nov 21, 2019 9:32:24 GMT -8
I honestly think this whole impeachment thing is hilarious, and remindful of the gladiator circuses Roman emperors used to stage in the Coliseum to entertain and distract the masses. In the cases of Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton, the president committed a crime, and impeachment proceedings were initiated to try them. In Donald Trump's case, the Democrats in the House decided to initiate impeachment proceedings, and now they are scrambling to search for a crime to justify it. What a shit show.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 21, 2019 9:41:35 GMT -8
Rasheem’s Tweet has been a liberal tactic for a long time: Accuse the other guy of that of which you are guilty. Only slightly more used than our favorite around here, “I know you are but what am I?”
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Post by SK80 on Nov 21, 2019 10:01:32 GMT -8
Close the curtain on this charade.
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Post by Credo on Nov 21, 2019 10:06:17 GMT -8
They never accepted the results of 2016 and are laying the framework to impugn the results in 2020, when Trump wins re-election. Democrats and Deep State mandarins like Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper--as well as most of the bureaucrats paraded before us in the impeachment sham--don't trust the voters to make the "correct" choice. They pretend to know better than the actual citizens whose taxes pay their salaries and would take away elections if they could.
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Post by Credo on Nov 21, 2019 15:44:46 GMT -8
“A decline of public morals in the United States will probably be marked by the abuse of the power of impeachment as a means of crushing political adversaries or ejecting them from office.”
Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 22, 2019 3:53:32 GMT -8
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Post by davidsf on Nov 22, 2019 6:11:46 GMT -8
They never accepted the results of 2016 and are laying the framework to impugn the results in 2020, when Trump wins re-election. Democrats and Deep State mandarins like Comey, McCabe, Brennan, and Clapper--as well as most of the bureaucrats paraded before us in the impeachment sham--don't trust the voters to make the "correct" choice. They pretend to know better than the actual citizens whose taxes pay their salaries and would take away elections if they could. Sexton gives voice to a concern of mine, as well. i have a lot of friends whose political leanings are somewhat left of center (and one or two who are way over on the left). These people seem to be listening to hearings that aren’t the same ones I’m listening to... with the caveat that I suspect they are only listening to clips on social media and not the whole session on CSpan. they are wringing their hands and travailing over “the President is a criminal” and, when challenged to show just how he is a criminal, they get sarcastic, or angry, and throw up [ sic] all the tag lines with which we are all familiar (“everybody knows...” or “you are blind if you can’t see...” or “...just like a Trump-supporter...” etc.). it is frustrating to me to see friends who are normally rational people, so unhinged and irrational by this. i have tried to persuade them of the good he has done, but they won’t even read (never mind respond to) any of it.
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Post by MDDad on Nov 22, 2019 9:04:17 GMT -8
It's fascinating how people with different political bents see the same things through entirely different eyes. Every day, after every "witness", the usual suspects on TOB are in consensus that Trump has just been crucified by the latest one. Here, every witness is seen as just spreading more nothing sauce on a nothing burger.
And the last three days' headlines in the L.A. Times have been:
"White House Aids Testify That Trump Call Was Troubling" (That's a little bit of an editorial stretch.)
"Sondland Implicates President" (That one's kind a stunner, as I got just the opposite impression.)
"Impeachment Witnesses Sound A Harsh Warning" (I thought witnesses were supposed to testify about what they saw or heard, not offer political conjecture of what members of the opposition party might be thinking.)
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Post by Bick on Nov 22, 2019 9:07:19 GMT -8
EGG-Zacktly, pops. Objectivity has flown the coop.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 22, 2019 9:13:31 GMT -8
It's fascinating how people with different political bents see the same things through entirely different eyes. Every day, after every "witness", the usual suspects on TOB are in consensus that Trump has just been crucified by the latest one. Here, every witness is seen as just spreading more nothing sauce on a nothing burger. And the last three days' headlines in the L.A. Times have been: " White House Aids Testify That Trump Call Was Troubling" (That's a little bit of an editorial stretch.) " Sondland Implicates President" (That one's kind a stunner, as I got just the opposite impression.) " Impeachment Witnesses Sound A Harsh Warning" (I thought witnesses were supposed to testify about what they saw or heard, not offer political conjecture of what members of the opposition party might be thinking.) I wonder how many of those on TOB have listened to or watched the actual sessions instead of taking their tag lines from the latest edited clip or meme (or headline). i have have just come from such an argument. I asked for specific evidence they’ve heard from these sessions that points to Trumps culpability. what I got first was a defense of hearsay evidence. Next, I got a demand “we” force Trump staff to testify to his wrongdoing (prejudicial buss, noted)... this is very similar, in fact, eerily similar to conversations I’ve had the last few days...unfortunately, some of them with people I ordinarily respect.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 22, 2019 9:59:47 GMT -8
Here's a three minute video of Sondland testifying...how could you get the opposite impression?
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Post by SK80 on Nov 22, 2019 10:11:05 GMT -8
This is another great ad released by the RNC..., they have been given so much election fodder from the left now the video editing guys must be having digital content orgasms ....
What Nancy is basically saying is we can not have an election with this man (Trump) running in 200 at whatever the cost..... that's what ELECTIONS are for you old F*RT! This car*p has been going on since day 1, from the Russia Hoax, the Mueller Report , the Cavanaugh debacle and these nothing burger hearings of hearsay.... and what has Nancy and her clan delivered the American people in 3 years.... NOTHING!
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Post by Credo on Nov 22, 2019 18:21:01 GMT -8
These Democrats are hilarious.
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