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Post by vilepagan on Nov 1, 2019 12:48:42 GMT -8
I'd rather talk about your stupid claim, but you don't seem to want to...what the heck is a "democratic supported network"?
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 1, 2019 13:05:11 GMT -8
Hmm...not according to NPR. White House Policy Official Corroborates Ukraine Narrative — But Saw Nothing IllegalA key White House policy official corroborated other witnesses' accounts of the Ukraine affair in a closed-door deposition on Thursday but said he didn't view President Trump's actions as improper or illegal.
Timothy Morrison, director of European affairs for the National Security Council, told House investigators that he was briefed about Trump's intent to lean on the government of Ukraine by his predecessor, Fiona Hill, at the time of their handover inside the White House.
A copy of Morrison's opening statement was obtained by CBS News and later verified by NPR.
Morrison also confirmed the substance of earlier testimony given by Ambassador William Taylor to House investigators about the details of the Ukraine affair, with a few caveats.
Morrison said he remembered different details about conversations between the Trump administration and its Ukrainian interlocutors and was not involved personally with one meeting that Taylor described.
However, overall Morrison said the public outlines of the story match his own understanding.
What concerned him about Trump's now-famous July 25 phone call with Ukraine's president wasn't potential illegality but the potential political and geostrategic blowback that could arise from the request the president made of his Ukrainian counterpart.
"After the call, I promptly asked the NSC legal adviser and his deputy to review it," Morrison wrote in his opening statement. "I had three concerns about a potential leak ... first, how it would play out in Washington's polarized environment; second, how a leak would affect the bipartisan support our Ukrainian partners currently experience in Congress; and third, how it would affect the Ukrainian perceptions of the U.S.-Ukraine relationship. I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed."www.npr.org/2019/10/31/775121967/white-house-policy-official-corroborates-ukraine-narrative-but-saw-nothing-illegFirst of all, there is no trump-Ukraine conspiracy theory. No one is claiming that trump conspired with anyone, much less the country of Ukraine. The claim is that trump tried to pressure Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son by withholding military aid to Ukraine. Secondly, Mr. Morrison did not in any way debunk, derail, or denounce the impeachment proceeding. He avowed that his knowledge of the phone call pretty much matched the public understanding, and there were no significant differences that he wished to add. He also said he wasn't concerned that there was anything illegal discussed in the phone call, but he had several other concerns not related to the impeachment proceeding. Note he didn't say there was nothing illegal discussed, just that he wasn't aware of anything illegal or that he wasn't concerned about the legality of the call. He did verify the previous deposition by William Taylor that the release of the military aid was conditional on the Ukrainians investigating Biden, so your implication that Morrison's deposition was beneficial to trump is hard to understand.
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Post by RSM789 on Nov 1, 2019 13:19:40 GMT -8
what the heck is a "democratic supported network"? ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 1, 2019 13:45:38 GMT -8
what the heck is a "democratic supported network"? ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC. Only a clueless ass hat wouldn’t know that.
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Post by duke on Nov 1, 2019 15:00:33 GMT -8
I'd add NPR to the mix too.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 2, 2019 2:22:05 GMT -8
Only someone with shit-for-brains would believe something like that.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 2, 2019 2:24:11 GMT -8
Of course you would. Tell me, how are these networks (and no others) "supported" by Democrats?
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Post by Credo on Nov 18, 2019 18:44:38 GMT -8
And he may have a committed criminal act in leaking a Presidential phone call. And if Vindman lied to Congress about not knowing the identity of the official "whistleblower" (as seems to be the case), then I expect him to get the Roger Stone treatment, who was convicted of .....lying to Congress.
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Post by Credo on Nov 19, 2019 13:41:13 GMT -8
Vindman should face court martial for attempting to undermine his Commander-in-Chief.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 19, 2019 13:58:23 GMT -8
I thought Republicans supported the military.
Colonel Vindman is a twenty-year veteran who has won a purple heart serving this country. Your smears against him are disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. He's done far more than you or I to serve this country and all you can do is slander him in an attempt to score a cheap political point? Just another example of how Republicans have gone completely insane.
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Post by duke on Nov 19, 2019 14:50:47 GMT -8
What a crock VP. If the guy is a partisan hack, he's a partisan hack. Please remember what Mueller, the Dems, and the MSM did and said about General Flynn before you try to lecture others.
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Post by Credo on Nov 19, 2019 17:43:00 GMT -8
Vindman is both a leaker and a liar. And if he's not lying about this he's incompetent. I'm sorry, but the uniform does not exempt him from scrutiny.
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Post by Credo on Nov 19, 2019 17:53:20 GMT -8
I thought Republicans supported the military. Colonel Vindman is a twenty-year veteran who has won a purple heart serving this country. Your smears against him are disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. He's done far more than you or I to serve this country and all you can do is slander him in an attempt to score a cheap political point? Just another example of how Republicans have gone completely insane. There's no slander. By his own admission he advised the Ukrainians to ignore the foreign policy directives of his Commander-in-Chief. That's called sedition. The guy is the lynchpin of a calculated effort to engineer the impeachment of the President. Why don't you try supporting him with some facts, rather than your usual route of smearing those you disagree with. And just stop the "you should be ashamed of yourself" trope. You sound like Dana Carvey's Church Lady from SNL. Be a man and stick to the topic. Self righteous scolding of fellow posters is the lowest of the low. Save it for the Mosh Pit.
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Post by RSM789 on Nov 19, 2019 19:32:38 GMT -8
BTW, whatever happened to the second "whistleblower"? The left and the MSM (but I repeat myself) got thrills up their legs when there was speculation that there would be a second whistleblower, even though technically he knew nothing more than the first leaker and never really hit the bar for being able to be called a whistleblower.
If you go back over the past 3 years, it is amazing the amount of crap slung at Trump that just never materialized and was allowed to slide down the wall, never to be spoken about (by the MSM) again.
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Post by SK80 on Nov 19, 2019 19:43:12 GMT -8
RSM789 It's likely as well their was collusion between whistleblower #1 and #2...... resulting in a mutual blow job.
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