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Post by MDDad on Nov 19, 2019 22:30:13 GMT -8
Are you suggesting that the two whistleblowers may have secretly blown each others' whistles?
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Post by Credo on Nov 19, 2019 23:37:48 GMT -8
Lt. General Kellogg trumps Lt. Colonel Vindman.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 20, 2019 3:29:54 GMT -8
I stand corrected. Libel then.
What a ridiculous interpretation of reality.
At least you admit his testimony was important. Good.
ROFL. Irony?
Why don't you practice what you preach.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 20, 2019 3:31:56 GMT -8
See? You can disagree with someone without smearing them. Congrats.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 20, 2019 7:20:16 GMT -8
See? You can disagree with someone without smearing them. Congrats. He’s always known that, we are earnestly hoping you will follow his lead.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 20, 2019 13:45:51 GMT -8
Which is why I told him to practice what he preaches...sorry if that confused you.
Thank you for telling us what Credo knows Dave...what would we do without you?
Hope springs eternal.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 20, 2019 14:05:42 GMT -8
Which is why I told him to practice what he preaches...sorry if that confused you. Thank you for telling us what Credo knows Dave...what would we do without you? Hope springs eternal. Yes, hope indeed springs eternal... which is pretty much the only reason you have not been exorcised from here: There yet remain one or two who believe you will eventually have reasoned and rational thoughts to contribute.
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Post by Credo on Nov 20, 2019 14:36:14 GMT -8
See? You can disagree with someone without smearing them. Congrats. He’s always known that, we are earnestly hoping you will follow his lead. You know very well that I was referring to your smearing of me. Public figures are fair game for criticism from both the Left and the Right--that comes with the territory. You forfeit good will on this board, on the other hand, when you characterize fellow members who hold different opinions as "liars" who "should be ashamed of themselves." I have never attacked you in such a vicious way, and would appreciate the same standard. Disagree strongly or even mock all you want. But slander and priggish shaming is out of bounds.
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Post by Credo on Nov 20, 2019 17:36:35 GMT -8
Military members of the NSC don't wear their uniforms as part of their work. That Vindman did so during his testimony was all part of the political theater to bolster his personal opinions with the imprimatur of the armed forces, one of the few institutions that retains a high standing in America. And the person in the NSC he went to for legal advice before proceeding with his voicing his "concerns" happened to be his identical twin brother, whose office is across the hall from his. I'm sure there was no conflict of interest in that conversation....
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 20, 2019 17:41:25 GMT -8
That you would excuse your disgusting behavior by claiming that it's "fair game" to criticize Lt. Col. Vindman because he is a public figure shows the depth of your moral descent. He is not a public figure he's a decorated military veteran who was testifying under oath. He deserves far more respect than you've shown him, and I intend to show you the same level of respect you've shown him.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 20, 2019 17:56:16 GMT -8
That you would excuse your disgusting behavior by claiming that it's "fair game" to criticize Lt. Col. Vindman because he is a public figure shows the depth of your moral descent. He is not a public figure he's a decorated military veteran who was testifying under oath. He deserves far more respect than you've shown him, and I intend to show you the same level of respect you've shown him. Said the hypocrite who believes it’s O.K. to disparage the President.
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Post by Credo on Nov 20, 2019 21:25:10 GMT -8
Answer: Both Schiff and Vindman are lying
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Post by Credo on Nov 20, 2019 21:54:33 GMT -8
And just to prove my point: That you would excuse your disgusting behavior by claiming that it's "fair game" to criticize Lt. Col. Vindman because he is a public figure shows the depth of your moral descent. He is not a public figure he's a decorated military veteran who was testifying under oath. He deserves far more respect than you've shown him, and I intend to show you the same level of respect you've shown him. YOU HAVE BEEN BLOCKED. I would urge all others on this board to do the same. This is not debate or discussion--nor is it even good-natured fun. I have no problem with the sharp elbows that are sometimes exchanged in political debate but this kind of personal attack from a fellow member--someone who we specifically founded this board to get away from--is too much.
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Post by Credo on Nov 20, 2019 23:11:35 GMT -8
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Post by Credo on Nov 20, 2019 23:26:52 GMT -8
I repeat: Public figures--including decorated military veterans--are fair game for criticism from both the Left and the Right--that comes with the territory. Both of these men were decorated military veterans. Both worked for the NSC. Both testified under oath. Both misled Congress.
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