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Post by davidsf on Apr 7, 2020 11:37:40 GMT -8
We have a local progressive, racist politician wannabe trying to use the old Tuskegee experiment of the early 1900’s to insinuate Pence picking Detroit as a human trial for Hydroxychloroquine is a way to kill off African Americans. She, of course, is a complete ass. Dave, does her name rhyme with Vaccine Squatters? No... “Vaccine,” like her or not, is already a politician. our Nikita moved down from Chicago specifically to get elected in 2018, failed, and now is setting her sites lower: She wants to be the county DNC chair. |
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 7, 2020 12:36:12 GMT -8
Awkward.....for the media. We have a local progressive, racist politician wannabe trying to use the old Tuskegee experiment of the early 1900’s to insinuate Pence picking Detroit as a human trial for Hydroxychloroquine is a way to kill off African Americans. She, of course, is a complete ass. The Tuskeegee Experiment ran from 1932 to 1972....what would you call someone who claimed that was "the early 1900's"? |
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Post by Credo on Apr 7, 2020 13:01:02 GMT -8
According to Trump's financial disclosure statements, his stake in the company that makes Hydroxychloroquine--via a fund that has 2.9% of its money in the French firm Sanofi--is somewhere between $29 and $435.
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Post by Bick on Apr 11, 2020 6:14:51 GMT -8
Israel may be on to something.
Doc...heard of this Pluristem?
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 22, 2020 7:28:47 GMT -8
COVID-19 treatment hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit, more deaths in VA virus studyMalaria drug hydroxychloroquine showed no benefit in a large study of its use at U.S. veterans hospitals, researchers say.
Hydroxychloroquine has garnered global attention during the coronavirus pandemic, most notably from President Trump, who touted it as a potential treatment.
The research, which was published in the medRxiv online depository, evaluated data from 368 COVID-19 patients. The study, which was paid for by grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia, has not been peer-reviewed.
“We performed a retrospective analysis of data from patients hospitalized with confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection in all United States Veterans Health Administration medical centers until April 11, 2020,” the researchers explained. Some 97 patients had been treated with just hydroxycholoroquine, 113 were treated with hydroxycholoroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin and 158 received “standard supportive management” for COVID-19.
The two primary outcomes analyzed in the study were death and the need for ventilation.
About 28 percent who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11 percent of those getting routine care alone. About 22 percent of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.
“In this study, we found no evidence that use of hydroxychloroquine, either with or without azithromycin, reduced the risk of mechanical ventilation in patients hospitalized with Covid-19,” the researchers said. “An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs.”
The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment but is the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19. (more) www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-studySo I guess trump has to decide whether to call FOX News "fake news' or just pretend he never recommended the drug.
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 22, 2020 8:01:17 GMT -8
...The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment but is the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19. (more) So I guess trump has to decide whether to call FOX News "fake news' or just pretend he never recommended the drug. As it says, it was not a rigorous experiment, but a large look. It could be spot on, it could have a flaw in its methodology, we don't know that yet. There are individuals who have zero interest in making President Trump's comments about the drug prophetic who have sworn that it made a difference. There are doctors who are are prescribing it because they believe they have seen it make a difference. This may be one of those situations where both sides are correct, that the drug makes a difference not for everyone, but for some people in certain cases. What is more problematic is your glee in a story that says a potential cure doesn't work. Rather than be disappointed for those who could use such a cure, your sole focus is happily trying to make the president look bad. Your response should be classified as inhumane. |
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Post by Bick on Apr 22, 2020 8:21:04 GMT -8
RSM... If that ain't the truth. There is such a clear divide left and right with the treatment toward hopeful news, be it a possible effective treatment, or this thing not being as bad as originally thought.
Now the other once relied upon expert, is getting turned on by the Dems because she's somewhat siding with trump.
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Post by thefrog on Apr 22, 2020 8:30:10 GMT -8
...The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment but is the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19. (more) So I guess trump has to decide whether to call FOX News "fake news' or just pretend he never recommended the drug. As it says, it was not a rigorous experiment, but a large look. It could be spot on, it could have a flaw in its methodology, we don't know that yet. There are individuals who have zero interest in making President Trump's comments about the drug prophetic who have sworn that it made a difference. There are doctors who are are prescribing it because they believe they have seen it make a difference. This may be one of those situations where both sides are correct, that the drug makes a difference not for everyone, but for some people in certain cases. What is more problematic is your glee in a story that says a potential cure doesn't work. Rather than be disappointed for those who could use such a cure, your sole focus is happily trying to make the president look bad. Your response should be classified as inhumane. It’s the same glee AOC showed in her tweet regarding the failing oil industry, which she later deleted |
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Post by davidsf on Apr 22, 2020 8:42:18 GMT -8
...The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment but is the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19. (more) So I guess trump has to decide whether to call FOX News "fake news' or just pretend he never recommended the drug. As it says, it was not a rigorous experiment, but a large look. It could be spot on, it could have a flaw in its methodology, we don't know that yet. There are individuals who have zero interest in making President Trump's comments about the drug prophetic who have sworn that it made a difference. There are doctors who are are prescribing it because they believe they have seen it make a difference. This may be one of those situations where both sides are correct, that the drug makes a difference not for everyone, but for some people in certain cases. What is more problematic is your glee in a story that says a potential cure doesn't work. Rather than be disappointed for those who could use such a cure, your sole focus is happily trying to make the president look bad. Your response should be classified as inhumane. Very well handled, RSM. HE TRIED to move the goalposts away from the experiment (about which he obviously knew he cannot dispute intelligently) and onto Trump and Fox News, a topic he generally believes we will fall for. you deftly kept him on-topic. 👌 |
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 23, 2020 3:22:05 GMT -8
Glee? No, you're just reading stuff between the lines (errr, line) that isn't there. The following was my only comment on the story:
"So I guess trump has to decide whether to call FOX News "fake news' or just pretend he never recommended the drug."
You see glee there? I'd say you're bringing your own bias to the story.
Not happy the cure doesn't work, but I am happy to provide accurate information to those people here who are too quick to believe all sorts of nonsense they read online....now that's problematic.
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Post by RSM789 on Apr 23, 2020 16:37:24 GMT -8
Wrong, wrong & wrong
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Post by vilepagan on Apr 24, 2020 2:54:33 GMT -8
Sure sure... Another example of the laughable lack of intelligence in our president: |
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Post by Bick on Apr 24, 2020 3:51:22 GMT -8
Really? WTF kind of BS is that?
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Post by Bick on Apr 24, 2020 5:17:02 GMT -8
OK... Some context to the disinfectant comments.
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Post by Bick on Apr 24, 2020 6:17:47 GMT -8
What are the odds a liberal would own the fact the "inject yourself with disinfectant" crap, was taken completely out of context?
About as likely as "there were good people on both sides" in Charlottesville?
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