SK80
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Post by SK80 on Sept 20, 2021 6:37:36 GMT -8
How many times now will this have to play out before the public finally sees through it? Seriously......
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Sept 26, 2021 21:50:58 GMT -8
Australia: this is all for your safety.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Oct 4, 2021 7:36:31 GMT -8
Here this is how you rip off the mask....., dont really wear it, make an appearance with it on for 10 seconds then rip it off.....
F'n JOKE.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Nov 10, 2021 7:23:47 GMT -8
Make sure and follow your own ideas and conclusions on science.....
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Post by SK80 on Nov 30, 2021 9:06:28 GMT -8
Ripping off the mask to talk (SPEW) then mask for the cameras... this explains it all...
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billb
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Post by billb on Nov 30, 2021 11:34:28 GMT -8
Only the servants and hoi polloi must wear a mask. The ruling class is another story.
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Dec 1, 2021 6:38:09 GMT -8
How many fully vaccinated people are going to come down with COVID before people start saying the vaccine is not working?
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Post by thefrog on Dec 1, 2021 8:11:12 GMT -8
Not sure, but I got covid with the vaccine and had little to no symptoms…
Still think the vaccine “works”
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Dec 1, 2021 8:46:49 GMT -8
Is it possible you were less symptomatic because the strain that infected was weaker? Was it disclosed which mutation infected you?
It's purely anecdotal, but my friends and family that are not vaxxed, have not been symptomatic enough to get tested. The only ones I know of that have tested positive for covid again were vaxxed to some degree, but around the 6 month point since last jab.
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Post by MDDad on Dec 1, 2021 8:47:43 GMT -8
Still think the vaccine “works” You're right. For those people who think a vaccine should provide 100% ironclad protection against ever getting sick, it doesn't work. But it does make it much less likely that you will get sick, and if you do, it makes it much more likely that your illness will be less severe. That's about all we should expect. |
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Post by thefrog on Dec 1, 2021 9:26:48 GMT -8
Is it possible you were less symptomatic because the strain that infected was weaker? Was it disclosed which mutation infected you? It's purely anecdotal, but my friends and family that are not vaxxed, have not been symptomatic enough to get tested. The only ones I know of that have tested positive for covid again were vaxxed to some degree, but around the 6 month point since last jab. Bick, this is the number one debate I have with both sides of the argument. Did the vaccine help me get over it quicker? Was the delta strain weaker? Was it because I am “young and healthy” I really don’t know; though I like to believe it was the vaccine… |
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Post by Bick on Dec 1, 2021 12:24:00 GMT -8
There's some pretty good arguments being made by Drs. Malone, Vanden Bossche, Atlas and others that point to the fact the vaccine targets the spike protein, and not the entire virus, it actually makes you more susceptible to break-through cases. Interestingly, the Valneva vaccine that had been developed to do just that had 100 MM doses canceled by the UK recently.
I'm sticking with continuing to take the supplements to improve my immune system until such time either a vaccine is developed that safely attacks the entire virus, or this whole covid thing is finally accepted as endemic, and faded off into the background like every other respiratory virus.
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Post by thefrog on Dec 1, 2021 12:33:50 GMT -8
I’d like to see where in the vaccine cycle breakthrough cases are occurring…
Fiancée and I were both six months into the vaccine when the breakthrough occurred.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Dec 1, 2021 12:56:10 GMT -8
Same thing happened to my cousin and his wife over Thanksgiving...right at the 6 month point. Both exposed my mom to it, but neither she or anyone else there, were at all symptomatic. Only the 2 vaxxed were symptomatic, and my cousin just went to the hospital yesterday. Neither of his teenaged kids are vaxxed, and they were not symptomatic either.
Anecdotal, of course, but follows what is started to get more widely reported about both efficacy waning and break-thru cases.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Dec 1, 2021 15:53:50 GMT -8
Is it possible you were less symptomatic because the strain that infected was weaker? Was it disclosed which mutation infected you? It's purely anecdotal, but my friends and family that are not vaxxed, have not been symptomatic enough to get tested. The only ones I know of that have tested positive for covid again were vaxxed to some degree, but around the 6 month point since last jab. Bick, this is the number one debate I have with both sides of the argument. Did the vaccine help me get over it quicker? Was the delta strain weaker? Was it because I am “young and healthy” I really don’t know; though I like to believe it was the vaccine… wouldn't you rather know it was you, healthy, immune system not some vaccine that aids you.....? |
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