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Post by vilepagan on Jul 28, 2020 2:25:06 GMT -8
Another thing VP enjoys is playing games with language, such as sneaking in the word "troops" when referring to federal law enforcement personnel. It would be clever if it weren't so obvious. I notice you guys all enjoy talking about me a lot more than the topic we're discussing...I guess it's just easier...you don't have to think or even know what we're talking about. Carry on.  |
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Post by Bick on Jul 28, 2020 5:40:57 GMT -8
Thank you, I thought so too. I ignored the rest of the nonsense you posted because it's just a deflection from what we're talking about. There is no Independence Hall in Portland so your point is lost on me. If you can tell me what historically significant building is in danger in Portland I'm all ears...otherwise... Rioters have been indiscriminate in their destruction of property and statues, and have specifically targeted anything they deem to be offensive. You said you valued people over property, and I wondered where you would draw the line. Being a Philly resident, I assumed you knew where independence hall was located, and wanted to know if that particular piece of property should be protected by federal authorities if the local Philly PD was unwilling to do so. ktvz.com/news/2020/06/19/portland-protesters-pull-down-george-washington-statue/ |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 28, 2020 6:12:19 GMT -8
Seattle police chief Carmen Best wrote:
Can we conclude from this that the city of Seattle has passed 119,805 ordinances and they still haven't made rioting and looting illegal?
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Post by MDDad on Jul 28, 2020 6:14:50 GMT -8
There is no Independence Hall in Portland so your point is lost on me. If you can tell me what historically significant building is in danger in Portland I'm all ears...otherwise... Apparently VP believes it's OK to firebomb any federal building that is not of historical significance. |
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Post by Bick on Jul 28, 2020 6:33:11 GMT -8
I doubt he thinks it's "OK". The question was whether or not he'd order feds in to protect them when the locals wouldn't, or couldn't.
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 28, 2020 8:43:41 GMT -8
Incorrect flaming Lucy, I made a peace offer that you refused to acknowledge or accept. What is it about you dumb libs that you can't tell the difference between a lie and, well, basically anything else. You sound like a gay Tourette's patient. And you sound like a douche bag...congratulations. You are so boring, you have to be the least creative gay person on the planet. Please note that is not a gay slur, that is a VP insult. Once the gay community finds out you are claiming membership, they are going to kick you out and move their headquarters. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 28, 2020 10:57:22 GMT -8
And you sound like a douche bag...congratulations. You are so boring, you have to be the least creative gay person on the planet. Please note that is not a gay slur, that is a VP insult. Once the gay community finds out you are claiming membership, they are going to kick you out and move their headquarters. Great...go away, the adults are talking. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 28, 2020 10:59:12 GMT -8
There is no Independence Hall in Portland so your point is lost on me. If you can tell me what historically significant building is in danger in Portland I'm all ears...otherwise... Apparently VP believes it's OK to firebomb any federal building that is not of historical significance. Apparently MDdDad believes it's ok to make silly arguments. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 28, 2020 11:10:22 GMT -8
Thank you, I thought so too. I ignored the rest of the nonsense you posted because it's just a deflection from what we're talking about. There is no Independence Hall in Portland so your point is lost on me. If you can tell me what historically significant building is in danger in Portland I'm all ears...otherwise... Rioters have been indiscriminate in their destruction of property and statues, and have specifically targeted anything they deem to be offensive. You said you valued people over property, and I wondered where you would draw the line. Being a Philly resident, I assumed you knew where independence hall was located, and wanted to know if that particular piece of property should be protected by federal authorities if the local Philly PD was unwilling to do so. ktvz.com/news/2020/06/19/portland-protesters-pull-down-george-washington-statue/First let me say that it's impossible to be both indiscriminate and specific in your choice of targets. Yes, I do value people over property but certainly there are some properties more valuable than others, and again we're not talking about threats to national monuments or anything like that. We're talking about a federal courthouse. I have been to Independence Hall and I've seen the Liberty Bell, but I am sorry I didn't memorize the addresses of these two landmarks. I have no trouble with federal authorities protecting federal buildings, but the locals do seem to have a problem with what the feds have been up to in Portland. There's been talk of unmarked vehicles and police with no insignia grabbing people off the street. This has led to the local authorities requesting the feds to leave. I have a couple questions for all the hard core conservatives and libertarians among you lot.....what the heck ever happened to States Rights? You people are all cheering for the feds to come in and crack some heads...no worries about an overreaching federal government? No concerns about crooked federal cops after the whole Russia "hoax"? Suddenly you're all cheering for the feds...kind of surprising. |
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Post by thefrog on Jul 28, 2020 11:34:56 GMT -8
VP, I take issue with States that refuse to enforce those rights. For example, Both Washington and Oregon possess the “police power” yet refuse to actually use its power to protect its own citizens and property. You can’t possibly look at the situation in both states and think that it’s safe.
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Post by Credo on Jul 28, 2020 12:18:07 GMT -8
There is no Independence Hall in Portland so your point is lost on me. If you can tell me what historically significant building is in danger in Portland I'm all ears...otherwise... Apparently VP believes it's OK to firebomb any federal building that is not of historical significance. You could see that goal-post moving from a mile away. The Left: "Destroying property is okay, as long as it is not historically significant. If, however, the historically significant property is a statue of dead white person who offends us then disregard he previous statement."If I recall correctly, the McCloskey's palazzo-style home in St. Louis is historically significant, as is the entire private neighborhood in which it resides. But never mind that. www.stlmag.com/design/a-decades-long-renovation-returns-a-midwestern-palazzo-to-it/ |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 28, 2020 12:23:35 GMT -8
what the heck ever happened to States Rights? What an utterly ignorant question. States rights have nothing to do with federal property, and it's federal property that the federal law enforcement personnel are preventing from being destroyed. |
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Post by Credo on Jul 28, 2020 17:48:20 GMT -8
The brilliant Jim Jordan (R-OH) played this video during today's hearing with AG Barr. Seven minutes of footage of what Jerry Nadler calls a "myth."
I'm sure the Demonialcrats were not happy. Someone aired the truth of what they have been supporting by their silence.
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 29, 2020 4:31:22 GMT -8
what the heck ever happened to States Rights? What an utterly ignorant question. States rights have nothing to do with federal property, and it's federal property that the federal law enforcement personnel are preventing from being destroyed. Thank you for the ignorant response. Is not the Federal government intervening because they claim the State is not? |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 29, 2020 4:37:13 GMT -8
VP, I take issue with States that refuse to enforce those rights. For example, Both Washington and Oregon possess the “police power” yet refuse to actually use its power to protect its own citizens and property. You can’t possibly look at the situation in both states and think that it’s safe. Are you saying you're ok with States Rights as long as they exercise those rights correctly? Isn't it up to the States to determine what's correct for them? MDDad thinks it's about federal vs. state property...if that's so why should the state protect federal property? Just so we're clear here I'm not a big proponent of "states rights' but I know you conservatives love the idea....so why not adopt it here? |
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