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Post by MDDad on Jun 10, 2019 12:06:18 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff.
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Post by Credo on Jun 10, 2019 13:11:41 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff. You want to rethink that?
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Post by Bick on Jun 10, 2019 14:03:23 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff. This will likely sound odd, but my limited experience with demonic education beyond elementary school via Sister Mary Badass, consists of the Exorcist, Devil's Advocate, Lucifer, and what I believe was a real life encounter a few years ago when my son was in ICU. The first 2 creeped me out, the 3rd is kinda funny, and the 4th was pretty eye-opening. It's a nice break from the usual "what did Trump or some liberal do or say today". You have any demonic experience(s)?
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Post by davidsf on Jun 10, 2019 14:05:55 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff. You’re not alone. But before I leave the topic, consider for a moment that you’re Satan. Your sworn duty is to bring down Gods creation. If that was the case, you would want to make sure those who aren’t already following God would not believe you existed: If a being like Satan exists, wouldn’t that tend to support that a being like God must also exist? And if an evil Satan AND a good God both exist, wouldn’t one naturally gravitate away from the evil one? Once someone starts down the road toward believing in an evil Satan and his demons, their next attempt will be to thwart through fear: folks won’t want to know more about that of which they are afraid. OK, that’s all I have.
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Post by davidsf on Jun 10, 2019 14:07:06 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff. This will likely sound odd, but my limited experience with demonic education beyond elementary school via Sister Mary Badass, consists of the Exorcist, Devil's Advocate, Lucifer, and what I believe was a real life encounter a few years ago when my son was in ICU. The first 2 creeped me out, the 3rd is kinda funny, and the 4th was pretty eye-opening. It's a nice break from the usual "what did Trump or some liberal do or say today". You have any demonic experience(s)? Yes, but not for open discussion here.
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Post by MDDad on Jun 10, 2019 14:13:46 GMT -8
You have any demonic experience(s)? Yes, every time I exchanged posts with Vilepagan.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jun 10, 2019 14:49:57 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff. Are you sure? There are more than a few Mater Dei HS fans who think I am the devil.
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Post by Bick on Jun 10, 2019 15:20:40 GMT -8
Sorry, guys, but I think you've gone totally off the deep end with this demon stuff. You’re not alone. But before I leave the topic, consider for a moment that you’re Satan. Your sworn duty is to bring down Gods creation. If that was the case, you would want to make sure those who aren’t already following God would not believe you existed: If a being like Satan exists, wouldn’t that tend to support that a being like God must also exist? And if an evil Satan AND a good God both exist, wouldn’t one naturally gravitate away from the evil one? Once someone starts down the road toward believing in an evil Satan and his demons, their next attempt will be to thwart through fear: folks won’t want to know more about that of which they are afraid. OK, that’s all I have. Bummer. I was really enjoying this. Thanks for engaging.
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Post by Credo on Jul 4, 2019 8:45:19 GMT -8
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Post by davidsf on Jul 17, 2019 12:41:53 GMT -8
Since she claims to have been in church, I am assuming this is the right place for this... because she shows a marked ignorance of how to apply Scripture.
Nancy Pelosi’s speech to the House on Sunday:
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Post by Credo on Jul 18, 2019 8:44:42 GMT -8
1. The Gospel cannot be cherry-picked as some sort of blueprint for public policy and political prescriptions. That's not its intention or purpose and is a lazy way to get around the business of real argument and thinking. Unfortunately this is too often a typical tactic of the the Religious Left (and sometimes on the Right).
2. Perhaps Nancy could encourage her Democratic colleagues to heed the Gospel and love their neighbor Donald Trump and his supporters as themselves and show them love. And maybe a call for "mercy" on the unborn who are being killed at a rate of over 2,000 per day, 365 days a year. Not holding my breath for those ones.
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Post by Bick on Jul 18, 2019 18:18:11 GMT -8
Changing gears a bit here.
How does the church justify spending $72 million on renovating a building? Seems pretty grandiose when there are charities that could better use the $$
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 18, 2019 20:22:46 GMT -8
How does the church justify spending $72 million on renovating a building? Seems pretty grandiose when there are charities that could better use the $$ That is my distrust of many mega-churchs like Rick Warren's Saddleback church, they have a new age take on what a church should do with the donations it receives. I have no problem with folks who want to make a lot of money or who want nice things in their life. However, if your stated purpose in life is one of spirituality, then every dollar you spend on "nice things" is one less dollar that can be put towards your purpose. kind of Schindlers List like...
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Post by Credo on Jul 18, 2019 21:10:42 GMT -8
Changing gears a bit here. How does the church justify spending $72 million on renovating a building? Seems pretty grandiose when there are charities that could better use the $$ If you're referring to the recently renovated Christ Cathedral (formerly Robert Schuller's Chrystal Cathedral), the Diocese of Orange would have spent more if they had built a new church from scratch (which was their original plan) and would not have acquired all the other buildings on the Schuller campus that were already there. IMHO, church buildings are for the people to have a beautiful place to honor and worship God. I have no problem with money for churches--providing it's well spent. No one's getting rich in the Catholic Church, which has probably given away more money to charities and to the poor than any institution in human history.
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Post by davidsf on Jul 19, 2019 5:21:09 GMT -8
Personally, I’m not overly concerned with how or where the church spends its money.
To,me, it is like any other business in that regard: They take in money, they spend money. I don’t hold spiritual institutions in any special bracket that must spend according to my perspective.
To be very transparent here, maybe I will start criticizing how churches spend their money once my own spending is in line with what God expects (of me... this is not a criticism of anyone else). That said, however, I admit to casting a sideways glance to those “preachers” who seem (to me) to be trying too hard to rationalize their personal expenses; like Jesse Duplantis and Kenneth Copeland. But even those guys will answer to God and, in the meantime, if those supporting their ministries can’t or won’t be bothered to hold them accountable, then I’m content to let them explain it to God.
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