davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Nov 17, 2020 5:31:46 GMT -8
Apples and oranges. The 99.95% is the survival rate IF YOU GET INFECTED, although you might get sick and be hospitalized. The 90% is the immunity against infection rate. The first tells you what your chances are of surviving a car accident. The second is the rate of preventing the accident itself. I'm aware of that. The point is that the possible negative side effects of the vaccine outweigh the almost infinitesimal odds of dying of COVID. I ain't taking it. And do you really think this vaccine will be 90% effective, when the seasonal flu shot is no better than 50% effective on a yearly basis? I’m just guessing, at this point, but I don’t think our governors (Jabba the Hut here, or Gavin Clueless there) will give us a choice. at least our governor (who is reading from the same game plan as your governor) has already signaled the vaccine will be mandatory.
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Post by thefrog on Nov 17, 2020 6:11:48 GMT -8
I'm aware of that. The point is that the possible negative side effects of the vaccine outweigh the almost infinitesimal odds of dying of COVID. I ain't taking it. And do you really think this vaccine will be 90% effective, when the seasonal flu shot is no better than 50% effective on a yearly basis? I’m just guessing, at this point, but I don’t think our governors (Jabba the Hut here, or Gavin Clueless there) will give us a choice. at least our governor (who is reading from the same game plan as your governor) has already signaled the vaccine will be mandatory.Good luck enforcing that
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Post by davidsf on Nov 17, 2020 6:37:35 GMT -8
I’m just guessing, at this point, but I don’t think our governors (Jabba the Hut here, or Gavin Clueless there) will give us a choice. at least our governor (who is reading from the same game plan as your governor) has already signaled the vaccine will be mandatory.Good luck enforcing that Yeah... he doesn’t have a plan for that, other than
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Post by SK80 on Nov 17, 2020 6:39:53 GMT -8
We shall be tied down to gurneys and injected...!
Hey, curious..., where do Frogs get a needle...? Frog leg!
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 20, 2020 10:57:58 GMT -8
Well, no vaccine for you Catholics...I guess you'll just have to pray the Covid away. Fresno bishop tells Catholics not to get COVID-19 vaccine, citing use of stem cells in its developmentCiting ethical concerns about the use of stem cells in vaccine development, Bishop Joseph Brennan of the Diocese of Fresno is urging Catholics not to “jump on the COVID-19 vaccine bandwagon.”
In a video shared by the diocese this week, Brennan said the race to produce a coronavirus vaccine has spurred researchers to make use of morally objectionable materials.ktla.com/news/coronavirus/fresno-bishop-tells-catholics-not-to-get-covid-19-vaccine-citing-use-of-stem-cells-in-its-development/I urge all Catholics on this forum to abide by this restriction. Horrible stuff that vaccine. You'll go straight to hell.
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Post by thefrog on Nov 20, 2020 13:53:36 GMT -8
We shall be tied down to gurneys and injected...! Hey, curious..., where do Frogs get a needle...? Frog leg! Our belly - largest part of the body. Ribbit
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Post by Oakley on Nov 20, 2020 15:35:47 GMT -8
We shall be tied down to gurneys and injected...! Hey, curious..., where do Frogs get a needle...? Frog leg! Our belly - largest part of the body. Ribbit Oh man, that hurts just thinking about it.
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Post by Credo on Nov 24, 2021 22:16:38 GMT -8
"Safe and Effective"
Yeah, hell no. My family and I will be remaining in the Control Group.
And what about this?
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Post by davidsf on Nov 28, 2021 6:40:35 GMT -8
We are apparently up to Covid-Omicron variant. I've lost track, how many is this, now? 13 or 14? Vaccine manufacturers (coincidentally, who got heavily invested in by our politicians last year) raced like their pants were on fire to produce a vaccine that would keep us from getting the virus... OOPS, I mean, we had to get TWO shots, 3 or 6 months apart and THEN we would not catch... WAIT A MINUTE, we REALLY meant, 2 shots and a booster MIGHT keep you safe, or maybe you'll only catch a weak virus...but, now: How vaccine makers plan to address the new COVID-19 omicron variant
SOO... here's my question: We're up to Omicron before they start "pivoting their efforts"...to "anticipate new strains." What have they been doing up to this point? (other than peddling this snake oil to make politicians rich).
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Post by billb on Nov 28, 2021 18:01:08 GMT -8
The booster for the original COVID is out right now. It is the same shot over again, BUT, they will have a shot for the Delta Variant out soon. I bet they are working on another for the Omnichron.
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Post by Bick on Dec 4, 2021 7:46:58 GMT -8
Maybe the biggest story is the reluctance to share the info with the people.
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Post by Bick on Dec 4, 2021 8:45:32 GMT -8
This is what I was talking about MDD.
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Post by MDDad on Dec 4, 2021 9:44:54 GMT -8
Maybe the biggest story is the reluctance to share the info with the people. Wow, that looks like quite a revealing study in incompetence. As a guy who spent much of his professional career reviewed statistical data, incuding some clinical trials, I'm a little stunned. This was supposed to be a "clinical trial" of a Covid-19 vaccine, right? That's pretty important. But I noticed several surprising figures that are a little shocking: (1) Those conducting the study didn't know the gender of 2,990 patients in their study group? That's 7.1%. (2) They also didn't know the age of 6,876 patients in their study group? That's 16.3 %, and it's kind of important. (3) Perhaps most unforgivable, they didn't know the case outcomes of 9,400 patients in their study group? That's 22.3% of the total. (4) Finally, we've known for two years that "Covid deaths" included all patients who either died of Covid or died of other causes but coincidentally also had Covid at the time of their deaths. Is there any reason to believe the 1,223 fatalities reported in this "study" didn't follow the same criteria? How many of those 1,223 deaths were due to cancer, heart attacks or car accidents? Considering the importance of the study and impact of the resulting vaccine, a first glance at the numbers has me shaking my head.
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Post by thefrog on Dec 4, 2021 10:38:58 GMT -8
#4 is my biggest question
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Post by Bick on Dec 4, 2021 12:14:57 GMT -8
First I've heard of this doctor.
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