davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Aug 16, 2021 6:08:11 GMT -8
TRUMP Republicans are abusing the recall process and costing tax payers $250million. How much did it cost taxpayers when Democrats abused the impeachment process? Twice. I agree, both parties abuse this process, and both should be held accountable, up to and including removal from office. In the legal system, frivolous lawsuits are dealt with reasonably enough to send a message to not do it... same should apply.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 16, 2021 6:09:10 GMT -8
If Californians vote for Wonder Bread Gavin Newsom over Larry Elder, won't it prove they are privileged white supremacist racists? Or does skin color only matter when they want it to?
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Post by davidsf on Aug 16, 2021 6:12:39 GMT -8
If Californians vote for Wonder Bread Gavin Newsom over Larry Elder, won't it prove they are privileged white supremacist racists? Or does skin color only matter when they want it to? the latter Just like masks only matter when it is them telling us to wear them... doesn't apply to the elite.
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Post by davidsf on Aug 16, 2021 7:06:32 GMT -8
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 16, 2021 10:15:50 GMT -8
Interesting. So you expect the guy who replaces Newsom to bring down gas prices, stop the wildfires, and what...end homelessness or end unemployment? Seems to me you want the Governor to step outside of his authority.
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Post by SK80 on Aug 19, 2021 6:31:12 GMT -8
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Post by davidsf on Aug 19, 2021 6:58:34 GMT -8
Illinois had a Republican governor, Bruce Rauner, from 2015 to 2019. Everything he did caused a war of wills between him and (IL House Speaker) Michael Madigan. Unfortunately, Madigan won most of those battles because the Chicago machine was in his back pocket, so when Rauner vetoed the budget, Madigan painted him as killing women and children, so Rauner eventually capitulated. Also, u fortunately, at the half-way point in his administration, Madigan got a democrat super majority so Rauner could not veto much of anything at all. He left after one term of accomplishing nothing beyond a few Executive Orders and even some of those were overturned by the court. Last he was heard from, he had over to Florida. SO, to answer your question, No, he cannot without somehow converting a few in your legislature.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 19, 2021 7:59:59 GMT -8
SO, to answer your question, No, he cannot without somehow converting a few in your legislature. I agree. With a veto-proof legislature, his effectiveness would essentially be zero. And while I'm a fan of his, his refusal to participate in the first couple of debates has weakened his support. Why would he skip them? He's either making some very bad decisions or getting some very bad advice.
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Post by billb on Aug 19, 2021 10:35:29 GMT -8
I agree with you guys, I think there is a veto-proof legislature in CA, BUT, Elder can be a voice that is sorely needed. Also, he will be the administrator and can make some executive decisions. Also, the media will be forced to show (hopefully) his viewpoints on issues. Right now they don't.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 19, 2021 23:00:39 GMT -8
I don't know if anyone already mentioned this, but the Democrat nightmare is that 88 year old Dianne Feinstein kicks the bucket, or otherwise can't complete her term (expires 2024), and Larry Elder (or another Republican) picks her successor.
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Post by billb on Aug 20, 2021 0:27:52 GMT -8
I don't know if anyone already mentioned this, but the Democrat nightmare is that 88 year old Dianne Feinstein kicks the bucket, or otherwise can't complete her term (expires 2024), and Larry Elder (or another Republican) picks her successor. Sweet dreams everyone. Although I don't wish ill on anyone, perhaps just a retirement. I didn't even realize she was still our senator. No more Boxer or Kamala.
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Post by MDDad on Aug 20, 2021 6:14:55 GMT -8
Please tell me that's a real woman, right? Not some trans dude who uses women's bathrooms.
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Post by SK80 on Aug 20, 2021 6:43:44 GMT -8
God be with you son if you can no longer tell the difference.....
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Post by MDDad on Aug 20, 2021 10:05:06 GMT -8
I can tell the difference. You're just supposed to act like you can't.
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