thefrog
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Post by thefrog on Aug 13, 2021 6:05:30 GMT -8
If the crux of his argument is against child vaccinations, then yes, I would agree.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Aug 13, 2021 6:17:26 GMT -8
This reads much like what I posted earlier from Dr Malone, and speaks clearly into the issue as to why the mass vaccination strategy is flawed.
Very few people I know bother to understand WHY this ADE issue is being raised, but instead focus on WHO is saying it,and will blindly trust or dismiss on that basis alone.
Knowing the potential long term risk of ADE coupled with the huge number of severe reactions to these vaccines, and still mandating them while simultaneously censoring dissenting or cautionary scientific opinions, is unacceptable.
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Post by Bick on Aug 13, 2021 7:37:34 GMT -8
Some more WHAT and WHY for those interested in getting past the WHO'S
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thefrog
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Post by thefrog on Aug 13, 2021 7:43:49 GMT -8
Again, if ADE were truly an issue with Delta, then we would see an influx of vaccinated in hospitals with fatal results… but we’re simply not seeing that.
I’m not dismissing that ADE can show up in future variants, but it’s not currently happening.
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Post by Bick on Aug 13, 2021 8:36:42 GMT -8
I don't think that's a fair argument, Frog. No one is saying ADE is a death sentence.
My point is that its discussion is being ignored or censored, and WE should be allowed to have the risk / benefit analysis of an unproven medication, rather than losing our jobs / freedom of movement because we refuse to blindly let them jab us.
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billb
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Post by billb on Aug 14, 2021 1:17:55 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Aug 14, 2021 1:25:39 GMT -8
 Dr. Vincent Rajkumar, a hematologist at the Mayo Clinic who closely studies his patients’ immune responses and antibody levels, said trying both strategies of using the current vaccine and testing a new version sounds reasonable. There is one hypothesis that if “breakthrough” infections are due to a drop in antibody levels, boosting those levels will be enough, Rajkumar said. But the more worrisome hypothesis is that the delta variant, or any other variant, might respond considerably differently ― and be less threatened ― by the antibodies the current vaccine generates. -------------------- “So unless you boost [antibodies] with a vaccine that is specific to delta, it won’t work,” Rajkumar said. Rajkumar said testing both hypotheses is the “right thing to do in the interest of time.” |
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Aug 17, 2021 7:18:27 GMT -8
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billb
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Post by billb on Aug 17, 2021 22:39:29 GMT -8
That should bring more fans.
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Post by SK80 on Aug 18, 2021 5:06:28 GMT -8
Any wonder......  *Disclaimer: The poster here holds PFE in SEP-IRA  |
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Post by Bick on Aug 18, 2021 5:44:05 GMT -8
It seems there are good facts supporting the idea that Israel is a barometer of what to expect from the fully vaccinated strategy.
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Aug 18, 2021 10:47:13 GMT -8
Norwegian cruise lines is going 100% vaccine passport for passengers and crew. This should give us a good example of how good the vaccine works.
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Post by SK80 on Aug 18, 2021 12:13:25 GMT -8
seems like this 100% vaccine thing is setting themselves up for failure..., i still believe you can't beat mother nature, in the end she wins.
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Post by billb on Aug 18, 2021 22:46:03 GMT -8
Norwegian cruise lines is going 100% vaccine passport for passengers and crew. This should give us a good example of how good the vaccine works.
Nah, all we need is a broad statement about efficacy and safety. 
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Post by billb on Aug 18, 2021 23:04:29 GMT -8
 President Donald Trump criticized the next phase of vaccine distribution as a scheme by biotech giant Pfizer to make more money. |
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