SK80
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Post by SK80 on Nov 2, 2022 10:30:50 GMT -8
Bick, I would never poke fun at a bourbon belly! Look, money is obviously the driver in big time sports, especially HSF, even know we know that 99.9% wont ever see that NBA or NFL paycheck. I know the introduction of NIL monies at the collegiate and even high school levels makes it all the more intriguing to excel at these given sports. Could it be possible if NIL money can go to a public school athlete like at a Los Al or Warren, will this eventually even out the playing field? At least in the public vs private debate? Another thought I often have while watching how huge these football programs have become here in So. Cal with the privates, at what point to you want to be known for you academics or faith based teachings over your football team. And this is not a comment or judgement on those teachings but acknowledgment of perception. If you asked some to say something about Mater Dei, or merely mention the school to someone, the reply or response will likely be about football and athletics. Thats how big and how much attention is on it. The leadership and parents recently @ Grace Brethren put an end to that a couple seasons ago, putting big time football, recruiting, transfers and all the other shenanigans behind them. They are playing 8-man football if you haven't followed that rise and fall story. Bottom line, they went back to being just a parochial school trying to put education before sport.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Nov 2, 2022 11:16:36 GMT -8
I don't think NIL will have any impact on leveling a playing field. It's player-centric, and near as I can tell, the ones collecting the lion's share of this are only the top level QB's.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Nov 6, 2022 22:31:48 GMT -8
A lot of good comments made already, so I won't re-hash those. Looking at the totality of factors, both private schools and public schools have enough of their own unique advantages and disadvantages that the athletic playing field is largely leveled out. The perception that private schools are unfairly dominating HS sports is largely due to a small number of private schools who are exploiting their advantage of a lack of boundaries to compile superteams that only other superteams can compete with. Corona Centennial has been top three recently in both football and basketball, but I don't know if they're fudging the residency rules or simply vacuuming up all the talent in Corona. - Football: Mater Dei and St. John Bosco
- Basketball: Sierra Canyon, Mater Dei (less dominant that in the past)
I'll stick to football, since that's the major topic on this board and the sports that has been most co-opted by these two teams at the top since 2016. If not for MD and Bosco, there would likely have been a variety of CIF champs in that time: Centennial, Bishop Amat, Mission Viejo, Servite, maybe Los Alamitos or LB Poly this year.
To my knowledge there has never been a requirement that Catholic schools only admit Catholic students; it's simply that for most of their history in the U.S., hardly any non-Catholic students who want to go to a Catholic school. I mean, how many non-Muslim or non-Jewish kids would go to a Muslim school or Hebrew academy? The increasing cost of Catholic schools since the 1980's (due largely to the demise of religious orders who once almost totally staffed such schools, among other factors) means that many Catholic families could not afford Catholic school or in some cases did not want a watered-down version of Catholicism that some schools adopted. Over the years more and more non-Catholic families began sending their kids for many of the reasons already stated: safer environment, stricter discipline, ethical and Biblical teaching, no Woke b.s., etc. The percentage of Catholic students at any Catholic school is going to depend on the percentage in the surrounding area and the school's commitment to their Catholic identity.
Servite today is 75-80% Catholic, which is on the higher end of most Catholic high schools in Southern California. St. Anthony, on the other hand, in downtown Long Beach, would be closer to 50%. Some inner city schools on the East Coast might be less than 20%. In any case, all students will receive a Catholic education.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Nov 7, 2022 6:15:27 GMT -8
I would think "Wole-Ism" is the perfect requiting tool for the parochial and private schools.
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Luca
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Post by Luca on Nov 7, 2022 7:31:56 GMT -8
What do you mean, SK?
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Post by frankieboy1 on Nov 11, 2022 22:44:03 GMT -8
The magic formula for a successful Catholic HS:
1) get your academics right 2) get your sports teams right 3) get your arts right 4) don't go woke
Do those 4 things and people will be beating down the door to get their kids in there. Slip up on any of these-problems result.
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