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Post by MDDad on Apr 7, 2023 6:09:49 GMT -8
That's true, both sides ARE bad. But they're bad differently. The radical left are bad because they are aggressive, insane maniacs with some of the most bizarre beliefs in human history. Conservatives are bad because they are do-nothing pussies who sit back and allow all this crap to drag our society down the toilet. |
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Post by nictoe on Apr 7, 2023 16:18:52 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Apr 9, 2023 17:47:15 GMT -8
What can I add, except this is really cool.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 9, 2023 21:21:22 GMT -8
What can I add, except this is really cool. Yeah, it's kind of cool, but it's also pretty darned silly. UFC fighters aren't the deepest thinkers in the first place, but for one of them to consider Donald Trump "the greatest president in the history of the world" almost hurts my brain. Maybe we can chalk up Masvidal's opinion to the fact that he got punched in the head by Gilbert Burns for five rounds. |
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Post by billb on Apr 10, 2023 6:48:49 GMT -8
Killjoy.  But seriously, what policy did Trump do wrong? Perhaps the vaccine. |
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Post by SK80 on Apr 10, 2023 7:49:19 GMT -8
On record you can support the claim "greatest" on character mostly not. One could argue that without his Charecter traits, his accomplishments would have been less.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 10, 2023 8:05:56 GMT -8
On record you can support the claim "greatest"... You're joking, right? |
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Post by billb on Apr 10, 2023 10:28:06 GMT -8
On record you can support the claim "greatest" He had a list of things he wanted to accomplish, and got elected on them. They he went down the list. He got Roe V Wade overturned, amazingly. That was one of the things. |
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Post by MDDad on Apr 10, 2023 15:27:19 GMT -8
On record you can support the claim "greatest" He had a list of things he wanted to accomplish, and got elected on them. They he went down the list. He got Roe V Wade overturned, amazingly. That was one of the things. Yes, he got elected on his promises, just like all presidents do. But to say he then "went down the list" is more than a little disingenuous. The one long-term good he accomplished is stocking the Supreme Court and many federal courts with conservative judges for life. That will impact American life for a generation. But he failed in the border wall promise, he failed in disarming North Korea as a nuclear threat, he failed by worsening our relations with many allies, he failed to overturn Obamacare, he failed to "get Hillary", and a thousand other promises. Anyone who considers him the greatest, ahead of guys like Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln, has forgotten what they once learned about American history. |
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Post by billb on Apr 10, 2023 18:19:12 GMT -8
Washington was great too. Lincoln too.
Trump did have good relations with North Korea. We weren't in wars with Russia, and potentially with China. The wall is a huge project and he built the wall throughout his presidency. I disagree with pretty much everything you said. As per our relations with Europe: He told Germany not to shut down their nuclear program. Look at the riots in France. Look at the last election in Italy. The world is a much better place because of Trump. I don't think things are better now. As per him not repealing Obama care, he would have signed it. He couldn't overturn Congress with an executive order.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Apr 10, 2023 21:16:47 GMT -8
He had a list of things he wanted to accomplish, and got elected on them. They he went down the list. He got Roe V Wade overturned, amazingly. That was one of the things. Yes, he got elected on his promises, just like all presidents do. But to say he then "went down the list" is more than a little disingenuous. The one long-term good he accomplished is stocking the Supreme Court and many federal courts with conservative judges for life. That will impact American life for a generation. But he failed in the border wall promise, Not for lack of trying, but he was fought tooth and nail by the Dems. he failed in disarming North Korea as a nuclear threat, Granted, the Saigon meeting fell apart, but he got Kim Jong Pooh to dial back off on his brinkmanship, and he was hoping to make some some more progress in his 2nd term.he failed by worsening our relations with many allies, Strongly disagree...He made the rest of NATO agree to increase their military spending towards the 2% of their budget. They bristled at that, but they knew he was right, and, I believe, some of them began to take steps to do so.
he failed to overturn Obamacare, Rhino McCain sabotaged that attempt. he failed to "get Hillary", He wanted credit for turning down the divisive heat in our country, and commented that the Clintons were decent people, but...as we all know, the trial would have taken place in Washington DC where Dems all have get-out-of-jail-free cards. and a thousand other promises. Again...given a full 8 years, he just might have made a huge dent in that list. |
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Post by nictoe on Apr 11, 2023 5:18:12 GMT -8
Among other things Trump has been called, is: ,"Your Excellency," in Kim Dung-un's love letters to Trump.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 11, 2023 6:22:33 GMT -8
Yes, he got elected on his promises, just like all presidents do. But to say he then "went down the list" is more than a little disingenuous. The one long-term good he accomplished is stocking the Supreme Court and many federal courts with conservative judges for life. That will impact American life for a generation. But he failed in the border wall promise, Not for lack of trying, but he was fought tooth and nail by the Dems. Presidents aren't considered the greatest in history for trying, they are considered so for doing. And he didn't do it.he failed in disarming North Korea as a nuclear threat, Granted, the Saigon meeting fell apart, but he got Kim Jong Pooh to dial back off on his brinkmanship, and he was hoping to make some some more progress in his 2nd term. North Korea is as big a threat as ever, so his love affair with Kim accomplished nothing longterm.he failed by worsening our relations with many allies, Strongly disagree...He made the rest of NATO agree to increase their military spending towards the 2% of their budget. They bristled at that, but they knew he was right, and, I believe, some of them began to take steps to do so. Shaming nations to pay more into NATO did nothing to maintain or improve our relationships with them.he failed to overturn Obamacare, Rhino McCain sabotaged that attempt. So in other words, he failed. If you promise to give me a hundred bucks, and then you don't because your wife wouldn't let you, you failed in your promise.he failed to "get Hillary", He wanted credit for turning down the divisive heat in our country, and commented that the Clintons were decent people, but...as we all know, the trial would have taken place in Washington DC where Dems all have get-out-of-jail-free cards. "Lock her up" was one of the tent poles of his campaign. If he only considered it a bombastic joke, he should have said so. As it stands, he failed. and a thousand other promises. Again...given a full 8 years, he just might have made a huge dent in that list. Presidents don;t get considered the best in history for what they might have accomplished had they had a second term. Shoulda, woulda, coulda means nothing. |
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Post by SK80 on Apr 11, 2023 15:55:56 GMT -8
On record you can support the claim "greatest"... You're joking, right? no, I'm not. my reference or use of "you" should've been "one"...., not speaking for myself. |
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Post by SK80 on Apr 11, 2023 16:40:06 GMT -8
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