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Post by Luca on Oct 21, 2019 14:01:10 GMT -8
Most of you probably read this somewhere but I actually started laughing when I saw this headline in various publications. So, calling someone an "illegal alien" could subject you to a quarter million dollar fine because it's a form of discrimination. Right. I'd like to see them try to enforce that. Somewhere in that Bill of Rghts thing I think it mentions "freedom of speech" and it would seem to me that this is about as blatant a violation of that as could be imagined. I'd also like to see the double speak legal justification that some lawyers must have come up with to rationalize it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "New York City has updated its legal guidelines on behavior that violates a ban on discrimination based on a person's national origin or immigration status. Among other things, the city says "use of the terms 'illegal alien' and 'illegals,' with the intent to demean, humiliate, or offend a person or persons in the workplace, amounts to unlawful discrimination."
Offenders can be fined up to $250,000 for each violation if they discriminate in employment, housing or other public facilities.
"We take immense pride in our city's diversity and the immigrant communities that call New York City home............."We'll see how much of that immense pride is focused on their legal team once somebody contests this. www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-illegal-alien-city-law-fine-hatred-freedom-of-speech/ |
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Post by MDDad on Oct 21, 2019 14:10:24 GMT -8
The one person who must be laughing himself to sleep every night is Vladimir Putin. This country is his biggest nightmare, and every day brings another example of how the sanity fabric of this nation is being slowly unraveled.
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Post by davidsf on Oct 21, 2019 14:16:29 GMT -8
Kruschev was right... they won’t have to fire a shit...
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Post by MDDad on Oct 21, 2019 14:28:27 GMT -8
Or a shot either.
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Post by RSM789 on Oct 21, 2019 19:04:51 GMT -8
I'd also like to see the double speak legal justification that some lawyers must have come up with to rationalize it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Especially considering the fact that "illegal alien" is itself a legal term used to delineate between the different types of foreigners who are on US soil. |
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Post by Credo on Oct 24, 2019 7:58:08 GMT -8
Great little video here that asks, in light of the recent China-NBA controversy, if those on the cultural Left are actually committed to freedom of speech--or just speech that suits their purposes?
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Post by Credo on Nov 9, 2019 21:52:51 GMT -8
Recent victory for the 1st Amendment and religious freedom.
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 10, 2019 4:07:30 GMT -8
So how is this a speech issue?
From the article:
The city's Commission on Human Rights — the agency dedicated to enforcing the New York City Human Rights Law — released the updated rules last week dealing with discrimination on the basis of perceived or actual immigration status and national origin in public accommodations, employment and housing.
The commission's guidance also states that harassing or discriminating against someone for their use of another language or their limited English proficiency, or threatening to call ICE on a person based on a discriminatory motive, are considered to be violations of the law.
The protections also extend to people using private and public facilities, including businesses such as restaurants, fitness clubs, stores, nightclubs and other public spaces.
Fines of up to $250,000 can be assessed for each act of willful discrimination, the commission said, adding that damages are available to complainants.
The commission provided some specific examples of how the guidelines would apply. For instance, violations could include:
Harassing a restaurant patron because of their accent;
Refusing to make repairs on an apartment occupied by an immigrant family and threatening to call ICE if they complain;
Paying a lower wage or withholding wages to workers because of their immigration status;
Harassing a store customer by telling them to stop speaking their language and demanding they speak English.
Other than the last example there is no "speech" involved in any of these examples. Why do you frame this as a First Amendment issue?
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 10, 2019 4:11:16 GMT -8
Why is that your religious freedom always involves telling someone there's no room for them at the inn?
Why is your religious freedom more important than mine?
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Post by MDDad on Nov 10, 2019 8:56:36 GMT -8
Why is your religious freedom more important than mine? Why is yours more important than his? |
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Post by SK80 on Nov 10, 2019 9:09:05 GMT -8
Why is your religious freedom more important than mine? Why is yours more important than his? Why are you still answering to him?  #Bot |
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Post by MDDad on Nov 10, 2019 9:11:29 GMT -8
Sorry, I knew the milk was sour, but I just had to sniff it.
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Post by davidsf on Nov 10, 2019 9:14:40 GMT -8
Recent victory for the 1st Amendment and religious freedom. Given the alleged “human rights? commission ruled against the printer, I am a bit surprised that literally all of the state’s courts ruled correctly. there’s hope for integrity, after all. |
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Post by davidsf on Nov 10, 2019 9:21:09 GMT -8
Why is your religious freedom more important than mine? Why is yours more important than his? How idiotic to claim victimhood from something over which one has absolute choice. the homosexual “victims” wanted only to make an example: “Bend to our will, or be ruined.” They had absolute control over where they could have the shirts printed. The “offending” print shop EVEN pointed them to an alternative, but at that point, shutting the man down for daring to say “no” and throwing their hissy fit was more important than the print job. Gee, who knew homosexuals will throw a puerile tantrum when someone tells them “no?” (I mean, “who” other than just about everyone) |
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Post by vilepagan on Nov 10, 2019 10:18:22 GMT -8
They're not..can you answer the question?
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