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Post by vilepagan on Jul 30, 2020 13:07:02 GMT -8
I plan on watching the eulogy later on but so far the press is quite good...but I suppose that's just more evidence of "fake news" to you lot. For your entertainment, a video of the worst Obama scandals....according to the conservative press anyway...  |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 30, 2020 13:08:25 GMT -8
bUt cHaRlEy kIrK iS nOt cReDiBlE cUz hE pOsTs oN tWiTtEr!1!1 He also posts complete BS. |
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Post by thefrog on Jul 30, 2020 13:11:53 GMT -8
bUt cHaRlEy kIrK iS nOt cReDiBlE cUz hE pOsTs oN tWiTtEr!1!1 He also posts complete BS. Am I going to have to go to Google to find out why you assert this? |
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Post by Bick on Jul 30, 2020 13:26:19 GMT -8
What you outlined was my biggest disappointment with him. I was excited thinking we were finally going to get past all the truly harmful excuses the race baiting enablers were using. He had far and away the best opportunity to put a big hole in the excuses some minorities use as a reason for their lot in life. Instead, and as you said, he made it worse...a LOT worse. The first black POTUS almost re-instilled the notion they are victims because of their race, and not because of their choices. Apparently what we need is a black conservative president. I maintain he did not “almost” re-instill the notion they are victims. He virtually campaigned on it and, then, built his presidency around it. obamacare, free smart phones, extended welfare benefits, and the INEXCUSABLE refusal to mitigate that victim mentality at every single opportunity from Michael Brown through Trayvon Martin, and Henry Gates (remember the beer in the rose garden?), he had plethora opportunities to at least begin to heal racial tensions. Instead, he did all he could to inflame them further. Unless I can prove intent, I'm going to qualify my remarks, and I'll stand by them. |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 30, 2020 13:28:43 GMT -8
I maintain he did not “almost” re-instill the notion they are victims. He virtually campaigned on it and, then, built his presidency around it. obamacare, free smart phones, extended welfare benefits, and the INEXCUSABLE refusal to mitigate that victim mentality at every single opportunity from Michael Brown through Trayvon Martin, and Henry Gates (remember the beer in the rose garden?), he had plethora opportunities to at least begin to heal racial tensions. Instead, he did all he could to inflame them further. Unless I can prove intent, I'm going to qualify my remarks, and I'll stand by them. Well stated. i understand his intent, whatever ELSE they might be, from his actions. Like you said, he made matters worse, whether or not he intended to is an open question. |
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Post by Bick on Jul 30, 2020 13:42:04 GMT -8
Unless I can prove intent, I'm going to qualify my remarks, and I'll stand by them. Well stated. i understand his intent, whatever ELSE they might be, from his actions. Like you said, he made matters worse, whether or not he intended to is an open question. Unfortunately, I can't really muster up enough of an argument to disagree with you on this. This whole victimization crap, be it race or any of the seemingly endless group that isn't a straight, white male under 55, is so incredibly counter-productive. It's a damn conga line of #Me-Too's |
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Post by duke on Jul 30, 2020 13:55:17 GMT -8
Obama's eulogy reminded me of a combination of a Professor lecturing all of us and a minister preaching Fire and Brimstone.
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Post by MDDad on Jul 30, 2020 15:13:29 GMT -8
I agree. As a campaign speech, it wasn't half bad, but as a eulogy, it was embarrassing.
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Post by Oakley on Jul 30, 2020 17:11:52 GMT -8
“One of the Sleaziest and Most Dishonest Figures in History of American Politics” – Tucker Carlson Goes Off on Obama After He Compares US Police to Racist Democrat Bull Connor
I believe Tucker calls it just right with this statement about Obama.
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Post by Credo on Jul 30, 2020 17:44:51 GMT -8
He also posts complete BS. Am I going to have to go to Google to find out why you assert this? Every single one of the ten scandals Charlie Kirk listed would have ended the Presidency of anyone who didn't have the media's nose so far up his posterior that it needed to be surgically removed in January 2017. I guess when you can't dispute the truth it's easier to attack the messenger. At least his Daily Show video was good for about 17 seconds of humor. Now we know what happens when you get your news from comedians. |
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Post by Credo on Jul 31, 2020 20:40:38 GMT -8
What kind of man uses a funeral in a Christian church for partisan political purposes? Barack Hussein Obama, who apparently learned well from Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 1, 2020 3:06:00 GMT -8
He also posts complete BS. Am I going to have to go to Google to find out why you assert this? Well you could but you won't...I can help. the original claim: Barack Obama oversaw the most corrupt administration in American history:
—Obamagate
—IRS Targeting
—Biden & Ukraine
—Benghazi
—Fast & Furious
—Solyndra
—Cash to Iran
—Hillary’s Emails
—Uranium One
—The VA Cover UpThis is a list of alleged "scandals" in the Obama administration which also allegedly "proves' that Obama ran the most corrupt administration in American history...this is Mr. Kirk's contention...do you share it? Let's talk about the worst scandal on this list...that should be the one where the most people faced criminal penalties for their corruption....in which of these scandals did the most people go to jail? I'll wait while you figure that out. Do you know of anyone who was jailed for their conduct in ANY of these alleged "scandals"? |
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 1, 2020 3:12:01 GMT -8
Am I going to have to go to Google to find out why you assert this? Every single one of the ten scandals Charlie Kirk listed would have ended the Presidency of anyone who didn't have the media's nose so far up his posterior that it needed to be surgically removed in January 2017. I guess when you can't dispute the truth it's easier to attack the messenger. At least his Daily Show video was good for about 17 seconds of humor. Now we know what happens when you get your news from comedians. I can and do dispute your "truth"...can you support your previous claims or just make more unsubstantiated claims? I don't get my news from the daily show I get my entertainment there...which is why I posted that you might find the video entertaining, and because you guys seem to like pictures more than words. I get my news from actual news outlets...unlike you. BTW, I noticed you didn't comment on any of the blatant hypocrisy by the right that was shown on the video....hurt too much or you just couldn't bear to watch? |
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 1, 2020 3:14:37 GMT -8
“One of the Sleaziest and Most Dishonest Figures in History of American Politics” – Tucker Carlson Goes Off on Obama After He Compares US Police to Racist Democrat Bull Connor I believe Tucker calls it just right with this statement about Obama. There's the pot calling the kettle black. I believe Tucker would say whatever he thought would get him more ratings, and there's any number of rubes waiting to believe whatever comes out of his mouth. |
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Post by davidsf on Aug 1, 2020 6:15:19 GMT -8
What kind of man uses a funeral in a Christian church for partisan political purposes? Barack Hussein Obama, who apparently learned well from Rev. Jeremiah Wright. His reign of foolishness and divisiveness is a distant memory NOW. WHEN Biden assumes the mantle, Ruth will finally retire (or die) and Obama will be appointed to SCOTUS. |
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