SK80
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Post by SK80 on Sept 9, 2020 10:07:26 GMT -8
I guess in a perfect world (MDDad's) you shoot him/her in the foot, they shoot you in the foot and call it a "Happy Ending"! (Because we know when you shoot them in the foot they will show you the respect back and not aim right between your eyes...! LOL.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Sept 9, 2020 10:10:41 GMT -8
Asking pretty much anyone in law enforcement and the military, my answer to the question of "why don't they just shoot them in the leg" was met with the universal answer... The mission is to neutralize the threat. If he's non-compliant and moving / reaching for a potential weapon, he can acquire it and use it against you. Geez...did Joe Biden hijack my account?? The answer to MY question of... |
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Post by davidsf on Sept 9, 2020 11:38:16 GMT -8
Asking pretty much anyone in law enforcement and the military, my answer to the question of "why don't they just shoot them in the leg" was met with the universal answer... The mission is to neutralize the threat. If he's non-compliant and moving / reaching for a potential weapon, he can acquire it and use it against you. Geez...did Joe Biden hijack my account?? The answer to MY question of... Or if you shoot him and he survives, he can sue you. |
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Post by vilepagan on Sept 9, 2020 13:09:02 GMT -8
In order to do what the anti-cops want regarding no lethal force, the cops would have to be SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than ALL the perps, so much so they would not be injured while making an arrest. The threat of lethal force used to be a deterrent to most. By eliminating that threat, the perps have become more emboldened, and that's causing an even greater amount of injuries and deaths. Think about the first Gulf War. The force we presented was so overwhelming, the enemy pretty much gave up without a fight. In what jurisdiction has anyone eliminated the threat of being shot by the police if you don't comply? Where have the perps become more emboldened? Where have they caused grater injury and death? Seriously Bick wtf are you going on about? |
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Post by vilepagan on Sept 9, 2020 13:11:41 GMT -8
Loop this every day on Wisconsin TV.... how could Biden win this state? Because not everyone is stupid enough to believe what falls out of Don Jr's mouth....who does? |
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Post by vilepagan on Sept 9, 2020 13:15:01 GMT -8
In my opinion, shooting him in the back as the officer had a hold of his shirt was an over-reaction. Maybe I'm just stupid, or maybe I don't understand physics, distance and trajectory, but it seems to me that if a cop is close enough to grab a guy by the shirt, he's close enough to shoot the guy in the arm, or the shoulder, or the leg, or the ass. But not seven times in the back. There's that...but there's also the point that Mr. Blake's kids were in the back seat of the car....really there should have been no shooting at all with anything more deadly than a Taser. Bullets bounce. |
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Post by RSM789 on Sept 9, 2020 13:40:23 GMT -8
More evidence that you don't own the firearms you claim to. Bullets don't bounce, they may ricochet, depending on the surface they are fired into. In this scenario, the bullets all will go into or through Mr. Blake, and into different portions of the front end or engine compartment of the vehicle. The kids were in the back seat, the bullets won't defy physics and do a 180 degree turn. The larger concern was if Mr. Blake was to grab a weapon, turn & fire either at the kids or the police (which could have ricocheted to the back seat). |
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Post by ProfessorFate on Sept 9, 2020 13:55:19 GMT -8
Yes, I have. And even with no police training, I'm pretty convinced I could should a guy in a nonlethal spot when I'm so close to him that I can touch him with the barrel of the gun. He WAS shot 7 times in "non-lethal" spots, otherwise he would be dead. He's not. Also, I suspect that he could have been hit in a lethal spot in the leg (a main artery, perhaps?) causeing him to bleed out before help arrives. Luca? |
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Post by thefrog on Sept 9, 2020 13:59:04 GMT -8
Bouncing bullets, similar to the the Kennedy magic bullet?
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Post by ProfessorFate on Sept 9, 2020 13:59:46 GMT -8
In order to do what the anti-cops want regarding no lethal force, the cops would have to be SIGNIFICANTLY stronger than ALL the perps, so much so they would not be injured while making an arrest. The threat of lethal force used to be a deterrent to most. By eliminating that threat, the perps have become more emboldened, and that's causing an even greater amount of injuries and deaths. Think about the first Gulf War. The force we presented was so overwhelming, the enemy pretty much gave up without a fight. I Where have the perps become more emboldened? Where have they caused grater injury and death? In a cheese factory, of course. |
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Post by MDDad on Sept 9, 2020 16:55:01 GMT -8
Yes, I have. And even with no police training, I'm pretty convinced I could should a guy in a nonlethal spot when I'm so close to him that I can touch him with the barrel of the gun. He WAS shot 7 times in "non-lethal" spots, otherwise he would be dead. He's not. Also, I suspect that he could have been hit in a lethal spot in the leg (a main artery, perhaps?) causeing him to bleed out before help arrives. Luca? Yes, and if he was shot in the ear, it could have torn off, flown down his throat and asphyxiated him. Come on, man, let's not get silly. I still maintain if you are behind a suspect, have a grip on his shirt, and have your weapon drawn, you can put the muzzle against his shoulder, leg or ass and stop him in his tracks. It's not like shooting the wings off a fly at a hundred yards. |
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Post by Oakley on Sept 9, 2020 17:09:44 GMT -8
I suspect that the officer who shot him was afraid that Blake was high on PCP and or other drugs and was unstoppable. After all, Blake had been tased twice, with no effect. At one point, he had one officer in a headlock and in the video it is plain to see that the officers are following him with guns drawn and he had no intention of stopping. He then reached inside the vehicle. Blake got what he deserved because he is a scumbag who didn’t follow orders.
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Post by Bick on Sept 9, 2020 20:31:21 GMT -8
More evidence that you don't own the firearms you claim to. Bullets don't bounce, they may ricochet, depending on the surface they are fired into. In this scenario, the bullets all will go into or through Mr. Blake, and into different portions of the front end or engine compartment of the vehicle. The kids were in the back seat, the bullets won't defy physics and do a 180 degree turn. The larger concern was if Mr. Blake was to grab a weapon, turn & fire either at the kids or the police (which could have ricocheted to the back seat). You mean like this? |
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Post by SK80 on Sept 10, 2020 3:17:52 GMT -8
Do not speed 87 MPH.
Do not drink, drugs and drive.
Do not fail sobriety test.
Do not resist arrest.
Do not carry a weapon, hand gun in your vehicle.
Do not open fire on a police officer.
There are enough "Do nots" to justify being responsible for your own death should it occur. Or in the least if Officer MDDad shoots you in the foot in self defense.
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Post by vilepagan on Sept 10, 2020 6:25:52 GMT -8
I suspect that the officer who shot him was afraid that Blake was high on PCP and or other drugs and was unstoppable. I suspect you're just making stuff up as you go along. |
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