MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Jul 23, 2021 21:29:42 GMT -8
Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom and Andrew Cuomo have demonstrated that having a track record of governance or leadership can be a very strong negative.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jul 24, 2021 2:06:32 GMT -8
I'd take the unknown from Larry Elder, rather than the known idiocy of Newsom any day.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Jul 24, 2021 3:44:55 GMT -8
"Anyone but him" again. Is that really the best we can do now?
Are we really incapable of seeing THAT is the problem?
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Post by SK80 on Jul 24, 2021 5:16:37 GMT -8
Does he have a track record of governance or leadership at any level? Bick, obviously relies on a long track record of governance when voting, it is this alone that make Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein and Waters such great qualified leaders. |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 24, 2021 5:31:20 GMT -8
"Anyone but him" again. Is that really the best we can do now? Are we really incapable of seeing THAT is the problem? My observation has been that is not the best we can do, but we've been voting the "not her/him" ticket for a long time. We voted "anyone but Clinton" in 2016, and "anyone but Obama" in 2008 and 2004... we CAN see that's the problem, but sometimes each party puts up people that are so onerous, the "anyone but _____" choice is the best we can do. |
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Post by thefrog on Jul 24, 2021 5:55:37 GMT -8
I haven't read up on Elder's platform, but I do agree with his political commentary 99% of the time.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Jul 24, 2021 7:20:11 GMT -8
"Anyone but him" again. Is that really the best we can do now? Are we really incapable of seeing THAT is the problem? My observation has been that is not the best we can do, but we've been voting the "not her/him" ticket for a long time. We voted "anyone but Clinton" in 2016, and "anyone but Obama" in 2008 and 2004... we CAN see that's the problem, but sometimes each party puts up people that are so onerous, the "anyone but _____" choice is the best we can do. And that's the point. Is that really the best we can do now? If so, us bitching about who is in office, probably the ONLY point of commonality, is a sad indictment of what we've become. |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 24, 2021 7:32:24 GMT -8
Is it possible that politics has become so distasteful that most people with any intelligence, integrity or common sense won't consider going into it?
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Post by davidsf on Jul 24, 2021 7:36:19 GMT -8
Is it possible that politics has become so distasteful that most people with any intelligence, integrity or common sense won't consider going into it? Given the last few state and national elections, I'd say that is highly possible. |
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Post by thefrog on Jul 24, 2021 8:21:19 GMT -8
Who would go into politics if your personal life is constantly under a microscope?
Something you said 15 years ago leads to damnatio memoriae... no thanks
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Post by billb on Jul 24, 2021 12:06:01 GMT -8
Does he have a track record of governance or leadership at any level? When you consider what those with political experience have done to this country, not being elected dog catcher is a good thing. He did run a business: Laurence A. Elder and Associates. It is a head-hunting firm. |
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 24, 2021 12:46:04 GMT -8
After waiting 8 pages to see if anyone mentioned it I guess I'll ask...what about the budget surplus you all are enjoying in CA? California Has Big Plans With Its Massive Budget SurplusThe coronavirus pandemic has been an economic catastrophe. Thousands of businesses have been shuttered, millions of Americans have lost their jobs, and even as the economy recovers, the unemployment rate remains over 6 percent—almost double the 2019 number—and surveys indicate that four in ten Americans are still economically worse off than they were at the onset of the pandemic.
This misfortune, however, did not extend to one state—California, which ended the year with a jaw-dropping $76 billion budget surplus. Other estimates have placed the number closer to $40 billion, which is considerably lower, but nonetheless much better off than other states.nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/california-has-big-plans-its-massive-budget-surplus-189296Is it because this doesn't fit the narrative of an out-of-control incompetent governor? Good luck with your recall. |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 24, 2021 12:55:19 GMT -8
Will you please just leave? Go infect some other community. Done f'ing up that other board so you have to try to drive us down, now, too?
Go away.
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SK80
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Post by SK80 on Jul 24, 2021 16:03:20 GMT -8
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Post by billb on Jul 24, 2021 16:47:05 GMT -8
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