SK80
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Post by SK80 on May 26, 2021 5:23:19 GMT -8
This topic is dominating the airwaves, almost all signs now point to the virus (Covid-19) originating from the WUHAN LAB. If true, I cant think of anything more of proving the media and politicians as culpable in this entire pandemic lie.
Wait, whose "political strategy"? Un-Effin-Believable.
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Post by thefrog on May 26, 2021 5:35:15 GMT -8
Though, if proven true, doesn't it mean that America is complicit since we funded the thing?
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Post by davidsf on May 26, 2021 6:10:22 GMT -8
This was known, or at least strongly suspected over a year ago when Dr. Lieber (Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard) and some Chinese nationals were discovered and charged... b ut the media gave it little or no space. NOTE, charges against them DO NOT state any of them assisted in the development of the Wuhan (COVID-19) virus. From the DOJ (contains a link to the actual charging documents): HARVARD PROFESSOR AND TWO CHINESE NATIONALS CHARGED
No one, other than liberal drones, believes anything other than the virus originated in Wuhan, although some people whom I believe to be well-intended, but misinformed DO NOT believe the Chinese deliberately spread it world-wide.
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Post by MDDad on May 26, 2021 6:24:18 GMT -8
So what if it's proven that Covid was engineered in a lab in China? What then? I listened to a half-hour segment on the radio yesterday about what the United States should do to China if it's proven. Are you kidding? They are four times our size, own half our national debt, and almost everything we buy is produced there, including most of our medicines. It's like asking what a chihuahua would do if a pit bull had it by the throat.
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Post by SK80 on May 26, 2021 6:25:10 GMT -8
Though, if proven true, doesn't it mean that America is complicit since we funded the thing? Senator Rand Paul had an immediate solution to this....
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Post by davidsf on May 26, 2021 6:29:54 GMT -8
So what if it's proven that Covid was engineered in a lab in China? What then? I listened to a half-hour segment on the radio yesterday about what the United States should do to China if it's proven. Are you kidding? They are four times our size, own half our national debt, and almost everything we buy is produced there, including most of our medicines. It's like asking what a chihuahua would do if a pit bull had it by the throat. Agreed. but it would be nice to get the truth for once...
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Post by MDDad on May 26, 2021 7:57:59 GMT -8
Maybe, but what difference would it make? We already know it came from there, so proving it is just frosting on the turd cake. The truth and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks.
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Post by davidsf on May 26, 2021 8:59:31 GMT -8
Maybe, but what difference would it make? We already know it came from there, so proving it is just frosting on the turd cake. The truth and five bucks will get you a small coffee at Starbucks. Except I never buy anything from Starbucks... (I know, that's a different conversation). I always want to hear the truth. It grates on me when I know someone is lying and no one calls them on it. You're more practical than I am.
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Post by MDDad on May 26, 2021 9:23:23 GMT -8
You're more practical than I am. Maybe. I guess I just don't have much patience for platitudes and empty gestures. One of the suggestions on the radio on Monday for how to "get back" at the Chinese is to force them to pay us back every dollar the Covid pandemic has cost our nation. Yeah, that sounds great. How do we do that? Another said we should slap a 20% tariff on all goods coming from China for the next 50 years. No problem. The Chinese just add 20% to the price of everything they send us, and American consumers essentially take it in the shorts and pay for the tariff. A third mentioned moving all manufacturing by American companies in China to Latin America or other impoverished countries. OK, besides the costs that would entail, and the uproar from those American companies, the Chinese could counter by immediately stopping shipment of all pills, vials of medicine and medical equipment we get from them. Who wins then? Maybe we should go to the United Nations and get China censured. Yeah! Yeah, that'll show 'em. The bottom line is they have us by the testicles and they can squeeze them whenever they damn well feel like it. And the only reason they have us by the jewels is because we willingly put them in their hands.
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Post by thefrog on May 26, 2021 10:01:20 GMT -8
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Post by SK80 on May 26, 2021 10:59:40 GMT -8
"And the only reason they have us by the jewels is because we willingly put them in their hands."
At least there was one man, one leader whom you hardly if at all supported in the least tried to get ALL of our NUTS out of the hands of the CHINESE.
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Post by davidsf on May 26, 2021 11:34:24 GMT -8
You're more practical than I am. Maybe. I guess I just don't have much patience for platitudes and empty gestures. One of the suggestions on the radio on Monday for how to "get back" at the Chinese is to force them to pay us back every dollar the Covid pandemic has cost our nation. Yeah, that sounds great. How do we do that? Another said we should slap a 20% tariff on all goods coming from China for the next 50 years. No problem. The Chinese just add 20% to the price of everything they send us, and American consumers essentially take it in the shorts and pay for the tariff. A third mentioned moving all manufacturing by American companies in China to Latin America or other impoverished countries. OK, besides the costs that would entail, and the uproar from those American companies, the Chinese could counter by immediately stopping shipment of all pills, vials of medicine and medical equipment we get from them. Who wins then? Maybe we should go to the United Nations and get China censured. Yeah! Yeah, that'll show 'em. The bottom line is they have us by the testicles and they can squeeze them whenever they damn well feel like it. And the only reason they have us by the jewels is because we willingly put them in their hands. Yeah... but no. For the reasons you listed earlier, we have no leverage to force them to pay us anything. Trump had some success using trade sanctions and levies, but who knows what. ELSE he had to give them to effect change.
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Post by vilepagan on May 26, 2021 12:12:06 GMT -8
This topic is dominating the airwaves, almost all signs now point to the virus (Covid-19) originating from the WUHAN LAB.
Really? Which signs would those be? Which signs don't point to the lab? Do you have any idea or are you just spouting nonsense? Here's an idea...why not wait until AFTER they investigate before you come to any conclusions...or do you just like spreading BS?
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Post by vilepagan on May 26, 2021 12:19:05 GMT -8
You're more practical than I am. The bottom line is they have us by the testicles and they can squeeze them whenever they damn well feel like it. And the only reason they have us by the jewels is because we willingly put them in their hands. Indeed. And yet we complain about how unfairly they treat us at every opportunity...it makes you proud to be an American, doesn't it?
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Post by MDDad on May 26, 2021 12:23:59 GMT -8
At least there was one man, one leader whom you hardly if at all supported in the least tried to get ALL of our NUTS out of the hands of the CHINESE. Please don't misrepresent my positions. I'm on record as having supported the majority of Trump's policy initiatives. It was his arrogant, petulant, childish behavior that I couldn't tolerate.
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