MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Jun 5, 2021 8:48:55 GMT -8
The best you can do is call Hannity and Carlson morons!!! They were right about Hillary, the fake Dossier, The phony Russian collusion, the phony Ukraine collusion, Bidens crime family, Hunter Bidens pay to play scams, Hunters emails, Fauci's emails which prove the Fauci coverup of his funding of the Wuhan Lab. It goes on and on. It would seem you're the moron. Fauci has changed his story more often than he changes his socks. He's the face of the Lefts latest attempt to control the media and the populace. True, but has anyone else noticed that Fauci always wears the same light blue shirt with a button-down collar. The guy makes $450K a year and only owns one shirt?
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Post by vilepagan on Jun 5, 2021 9:46:38 GMT -8
The best you can do is call Hannity and Carlson morons!!! They were right about Hillary, the fake Dossier, The phony Russian collusion, the phony Ukraine collusion, Bidens crime family, Hunter Bidens pay to play scams, Hunters emails, Fauci's emails which prove the Fauci coverup of his funding of the Wuhan Lab. It goes on and on. It would seem you're the moron. Fauci has changed his story more often than he changes his socks. He's the face of the Lefts latest attempt to control the media and the populace. No, I can do much better than call Hannity and Carlson morons but that'll do for now. Your list of what they were allegedly "right" about is hilarious. It would seem you're just as moronic as they are. I'm very sorry for your raging paranoia, but the left isn't trying to control the populace or the media. Thank you for ably demonstrating the lack of intelligence and reason shown by those who get their news from Hannity and Carlson that I wrote about earlier, and you appropriately quoted above. Kudos.
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duke
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Post by duke on Jun 5, 2021 10:49:29 GMT -8
The investigators who actually followed the news have proven what Carlson and Hannity showed on their programs. Your own lack of intelligence shows that you continue to deteriorate mentally. I think you better go back to TOB where your lack of awareness can be hidden with like minded thinking.
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Post by vilepagan on Jun 6, 2021 2:40:03 GMT -8
The investigators who actually followed the news have proven what Carlson and Hannity showed on their programs. Yeah, I'm sure the investigators are following Hannity and Carlson's every word. ROFL. Did you come up with this idiocy yourself or did you read this nonsense somewhere? BTW, both Hannity and Carlson have clearly stated in the past that they are NOT newsmen (when forced to admit the inaccuracy of the information they purvey), so why the heck do you go to them for "news"? Clearly you're under the misapprehension that they have some incentive to provide accurate information or that they have some moral drive to be truthful. I can assure you that neither case is true. They just want to make money.
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Post by davidsf on Jun 6, 2021 4:21:40 GMT -8
The investigators who actually followed the news have proven what Carlson and Hannity showed on their programs. Yeah, I'm sure the investigators are following Hannity and Carlson's every word. ROFL. Did you come up with this idiocy yourself or did you read this nonsense somewhere? BTW, both Hannity and Carlson have clearly stated in the past that they are NOT newsmen (when forced to admit the inaccuracy of the information they purvey), so why the heck do you go to them for "news"? Clearly you're under the misapprehension that they have some incentive to provide accurate information or that they have some moral drive to be truthful. I can assure you that neither case is true. They just want to make money. Do you own stock in the Strawman Fallacy company? Your attack on two opinion journalists doesn’t obviate what they said. You should try responding to those facts, once.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Jun 6, 2021 5:37:29 GMT -8
At least there was one man, one leader whom you hardly if at all supported in the least tried to get ALL of our NUTS out of the hands of the CHINESE. Please don't misrepresent my positions. I'm on record as having supported the majority of Trump's policy initiatives. It was his arrogant, petulant, childish behavior that I couldn't tolerate. That's been the position of most on the middle to the right.
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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Jun 6, 2021 6:14:10 GMT -8
Yeah, I'm sure the investigators are following Hannity and Carlson's every word. ROFL. Did you come up with this idiocy yourself or did you read this nonsense somewhere? BTW, both Hannity and Carlson have clearly stated in the past that they are NOT newsmen (when forced to admit the inaccuracy of the information they purvey), so why the heck do you go to them for "news"? Clearly you're under the misapprehension that they have some incentive to provide accurate information or that they have some moral drive to be truthful. I can assure you that neither case is true. They just want to make money. Do you own stock in the Strawman Fallacy company? Your attack on two opinion journalists doesn’t obviate what they said. You should try responding to those facts, once. Hannity and Carlson openly admitting that they are not "newsmen" is infinitely better and more honest than all the "journalists" on the left who claim they are, when they spend all their time selectively promulgating their opinions and other bullshit. I'd much rather listen to a whore who admits she's a whore than one who tries to convince you she's a princess.
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Post by thefrog on Jun 6, 2021 6:27:37 GMT -8
Unlike Don Lemon and the rest of his good ole band of merry children
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Post by davidsf on Jun 6, 2021 9:59:46 GMT -8
Do you own stock in the Strawman Fallacy company? Your attack on two opinion journalists doesn’t obviate what they said. You should try responding to those facts, once. Hannity and Carlson openly admitting that they are not "newsmen" is infinitely better and more honest than all the "journalists" on the left who claim they are, when they spend all their time selectively promulgating their opinions and other bullshit. I'd much rather listen to a whore who admits she's a whore than one who tries to convince you she's a princess. Yep, agree on that. Vilepagan wants to convince us that means they are therefore not trustworthy. I say, take the facts and use them (or respond to them), form your own opinion based on them, throw out the rest... but don't hide behind "oh, they're not newsmen" as your excuse to disavow everything they say. That's just too intellectually lazy.
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Post by Luca on Jun 6, 2021 13:24:45 GMT -8
I think the attacks on Fauci are largely the result of people who get their news from morons like Hannity and Carlson ....but I wonder why so many people seem surprised by the apparent cover-up. It seems completely within their character to do so. ........ If the leak had happened in some secret US government lab what would we know about it? Some of the criticism of Fauci is based on misinformation and in some cases even paranoia. But not all or perhaps even most. The fact is he has not done his job as well as he should have. He was one of those who greatly exaggerated the scope of the illness and contributed to an unnecessary panic (i.e., the “700,000 respirators" needed in New York alone, the "millions" of expected fatalities in the US, the unnecessary delay in relaxing restrictions and so on). But, again, let’s don’t attribute malice where ignorance will suffice. There was unavoidably widespread ignorance at first regarding this novel virus, but he conveyed a sense of certainty where none existed and he is at fault for that. The first rule of medicine is “ primum non nocere" (First, do no harm). Do not act like you know the facts when you do not (not a bad guide for all of us, actually). You cannot fault him for taking a conservative position initially but he was too slow in adjusting to the facts and it caused unnecessary psychological and economic damage. "Science" does not tell us how to respond. It simply gives us facts and statistics which we can use to draw reasonable conclusions. It was up to the politicians to look at the known facts and make decisions on how restrictive to be. Because Fauci held on to an unnecessarily conservative approach for too long and saw fit to make his personal recommendations, too many politicians sought refuge behind his veneer of "science" and overreacted. Fauci is partly to blame for this. I don’t believe many people are surprised by the Chinese cover up. They’re surprised and angered by the premature dismissal of even its possibility by so many U.S. government officials and much of the media. Those same individuals who jumped all over the fabricated "Russian collusion" nonsense regarding Donald Trump - despite a paucity of evidence - evidently could not even acknowledge the possibility of a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan doing gain of function research on coronavirus being responsible for a novel coronavirus outbreak in that same city, as though that were some sort of a stretch. Hyperbole has its place, but use it too much and it says more about the author than the recipient. Hannity and Carlson are not "morons". They simply hold a perspective different from your own. That is not the definition of subnormal IQ. If in fact they were, we we'd have to come up with an even more regressive term for our own Mr. Biden But, yes, had that outbreak leaked out of a US lab you can be certain we’d find out about it. You couldn’t hide something like that in the US.…………………………….Luca
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Post by Credo on Jun 6, 2021 19:39:44 GMT -8
It was a PLANdemic.
I wouldn't put anything past these people.
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Post by billb on Jun 6, 2021 20:10:34 GMT -8
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Post by vilepagan on Jun 7, 2021 2:03:31 GMT -8
I think the attacks on Fauci are largely the result of people who get their news from morons like Hannity and Carlson ....but I wonder why so many people seem surprised by the apparent cover-up. It seems completely within their character to do so. ........ If the leak had happened in some secret US government lab what would we know about it? I don’t believe many people are surprised by the Chinese cover up. They’re surprised and angered by the premature dismissal of even its possibility by so many U.S. government officials and much of the media. Those same individuals who jumped all over the fabricated "Russian collusion" nonsense regarding Donald Trump - despite a paucity of evidence - evidently could not even acknowledge the possibility of a Chinese laboratory in Wuhan doing gain of function research on coronavirus being responsible for a novel coronavirus outbreak in that same city, as though that were some sort of a stretch. Hyperbole has its place, but use it too much and it says more about the author than the recipient. Hannity and Carlson are not "morons". They simply hold a perspective different from your own. That is not the definition of subnormal IQ. If in fact they were, we we'd have to come up with an even more regressive term for our own Mr. Biden But, yes, had that outbreak leaked out of a US lab you can be certain we’d find out about it. You couldn’t hide something like that in the US.…………………………….Luca Well, what people were dismissive of was the idea that this virus had been manipulated and then deliberately released by China...you know, the idiotic idea of a "plandemic" that some were putting forward and that some people are still spouting. I know of no one who was denying the possibility that this somehow escaped from the lab in Wuhan due to some kind of lab accident. The very first reports about the virus were how scientists looked at it and determined that it was highly unlikely that the virus was manipulated in a lab and that it had a natural zoonotic origin. I understand the problem with hyperbole but we'll have to agree to disagree on Hannity and Carlson...I've seen them propose too many idiotic theories to call them intelligent. I'm sure we'd probably see through any attempts to cover up such a leak in the US, but that really wasn't the point...do you think there would be no chance such a cover-up would be attempted in this country, by either a private company or by the Government? If you do you have more faith in people than I do.
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Post by mrright on Jul 9, 2021 14:26:55 GMT -8
This topic is dominating the airwaves, almost all signs now point to the virus (Covid-19) originating from the WUHAN LAB. If true, I cant think of anything more of proving the media and politicians as culpable in this entire pandemic lie.
Wait, whose "political strategy"? Un-Effin-Believable.
remember how nobody was allowed to say that?
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Post by billb on Dec 11, 2022 19:12:38 GMT -8
OK, yesterday I saw an interview with Dr. Andrew G Huff who has been involved in weapons research. He was VP for a while at ECOHEALTH Alliance who sent NIH funding to the Wuhan lab. He said that people are focusing NIH funding, which accounts to just hundreds of thousands of dollars, but the DOD sent millions and provides money to various labs around the world. A Biden Administration official admitted in a congressional hearing that she was worried that some of the labs in the Ukraine would fall into Russian hands.
So while we are blaming Fauci for signing off on grants, the Defense Department was a much bigger player. I think the Wuhan Lab, and other labs around the world, a doing illegal bioweapons research.
If you jump 49 minutes into this interview he explains why the Chinese even cared about a small NIH grant. They wanted information about our research. I am not sure how that worked, but it does make sense.
banned.video/watch?id=63950155ba9ae416e190e0ac
The whole interview is interesting.
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