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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Aug 19, 2021 8:10:33 GMT -8
Barack Obama got all the credit for finding and killing Osama bin Laden when all he did was say the word GO. He had nothing to do with any of the decisions or work leading up to it. The same should apply to Joe Biden. He gets full credit for his fiasco because he sits in the Oval Office and said Go. Either the buck stops in that office or it doesn't. His effort to say the buck stops with him and then blame everyone but himself for this clusterf*ck is childish (or senile). And to claim there was no other way this could have been handled is despicable.
And why in the hell are there 15,000 Americans living in that sh*thole?
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Post by SK80 on Aug 19, 2021 8:22:26 GMT -8
Well there are two debates here, all the "YES" years or decades as to why still be there, second, withdrawal was imminent and decided upon, how that withdrawal happened is solely on this administration. It would be like studying for a test for 20 years, with all the crib notes, insider information, this appears that someone handed Biden the CLIFF NOTES and he fell off that cliff. REPORT CARD F-.
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Post by thefrog on Aug 19, 2021 8:30:11 GMT -8
It is absolutely inexcusable that Biden refuses to speak about Afghanistan and the 10,000 Americans trapped there.
I’m sorry, but even Democrats cannot defend this.
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Post by mrright on Aug 19, 2021 9:22:55 GMT -8
America wins wars. not the little games the gutless politicians play, thats why no action should be taken without congress doing their job and declaring a war.
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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Aug 19, 2021 9:53:12 GMT -8
Not in Korea. Or Vietnam. Or Lebanon. Or Somalia. Or Bosnia. Or Syria. Or Afghanistan. |
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 19, 2021 10:20:29 GMT -8
I have several problems with this paragraph:
- it WAS Biden, after all, who pulled the trigger, without, apparently, considering the circumstances or the timing.
I have no problems with that paragraph. As I've said before the Republicans are responsible for invading and setting our policies in Afghanistan, and the Democrats are responsible for following those policies and expanding on them. Plenty of blame to go around. 2. No, it WASN"T Biden who pulled the trigger. It WAS trump who negotiated a deal with the Taliban, not the government of Afghanistan, and it was he who started the withdrawal. Had he been left in office the "withdrawal" would have been quicker and probably more chaotic. |
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 19, 2021 10:23:35 GMT -8
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 19, 2021 10:29:58 GMT -8
Barack Obama got all the credit for finding and killing Osama bin Laden when all he did was say the word GO. He had nothing to do with any of the decisions or work leading up to it. The same should apply to Joe Biden. He gets full credit for his fiasco because he sits in the Oval Office and said Go. Either the buck stops in that office or it doesn't. And why in the hell are there 15,000 Americans living in that sh*thole? Uh Huh...were the plans to go kill Bin Laden drawn up and initiated by the previous administration? No, so your comparison falls flat. Biden didn't say "GO" because the withdrawal had ALREADY BEGUN UNDER TRUMP. He did say "continue" and in hindsight that didn't work out well, but don't take credit away from trump for this fiasco, his fingerprints are all over it. I would imagine those 15,000 Americans are largely relief workers, teachers, and the like...people who see some value in Afghanistan and its people...perhaps you could show them little respect. |
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Post by mrright on Aug 19, 2021 12:15:12 GMT -8
Not in Korea. Or Vietnam. Or Lebanon. Or Somalia. Or Bosnia. Or Syria. Or Afghanistan. because they werent declared wars. see? and thats why either declare them wars or screw it. america wins wars, |
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 19, 2021 22:13:22 GMT -8
I will say this. Somehow in all of this Biden has managed to piss off the UK, France, and Germany, and that could have, and should have been avoided.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Aug 19, 2021 23:18:38 GMT -8
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Post by SK80 on Aug 20, 2021 4:13:23 GMT -8
I suspect we will be seeing many a video or image of some inhumane events from Bidens Bloody Blunder....
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Post by vilepagan on Aug 20, 2021 5:29:58 GMT -8
I suspect we will be seeing many a video or image of some inhumane events from Bidens Bloody Blunder.... Make sure you spread the Taliban's message as far as you can. |
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Post by davidsf on Aug 23, 2021 13:06:51 GMT -8
Interesting that, since this debacle began, snowflake congressmen have disappeared: anyone hear from Bernie Sanders AOC, anyone in the squad of 4 morons?
Huh! Imagine that.
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"Nobody Could Have Predicted Afghan Government Would Collapse in 11 Days" = Understatement of the year? What is this the art of deflection? Nobody could so nobody is responsible. 
