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Post by coach on Mar 29, 2019 14:54:23 GMT -8
Oh Man! I almost spit water on my screen!!!! That was classic RSM. It’s been interesting to see that you have been posting some on TOB, Red. I think they’ve gotten used to not having any dissenting opinions over there. It’ll be interesting to see if you get tossed, also. I couldn’t help but add a comment myself regarding the end of the Mueller investigation. The “collusion” scandal is, of course, morphing into the “obstruction of justice” scandal. Thry’re Like those Bible interpreting millenialists who predicted the end of the world on January 1, 2000. When nothing happened suddenly it was “Well, we went back and realized we miscalculated the secret code. Now we know the world will actually end on............” I don't know why, but I feel somebody has to shed some light on them. It's not working. JQP is quoting some lame NPR poll. They don't know it yet, but their gal, Brennan, and the rest of the Coup is going to be taken down Horowitz and Huber comes out with their reports. I am also waiting for Trump to declassify the Fisa Warrants paperwork. How many in the FBI has been fired or demoted?
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Post by Bick on Mar 29, 2019 17:14:58 GMT -8
If those Fisa warrants come to light... Wow.
Wonder why Nancy isn't calling for them?
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Post by Credo on Mar 29, 2019 18:16:30 GMT -8
According to TOB, Trump & Putin must have conspired to skew this poll.
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Post by davidsf on Mar 30, 2019 6:43:29 GMT -8
I heard a completely unsubstantiated rumor that Trump had to wait for the conclusion of the Mueller investigation to lower the boom on DC miscreants.
I’m not sure what that means, but the Mueller investigation is over, so maybe we will see...
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Post by SK80 on Mar 30, 2019 7:07:41 GMT -8
"Thry’re Like those Bible interpreting millenialists who predicted the end of the world on January 1, 2000. When nothing happened suddenly it was “Well, we went back and realized we miscalculated the secret code. Now we know the world will actually end on............”"
Yep, like the end of the world according to GORE has been extended by AOC another 12 years...! Bwahahhaaaaa!
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Post by Credo on Mar 30, 2019 7:15:39 GMT -8
I heard a completely unsubstantiated rumor that Trump had to wait for the conclusion of the Mueller investigation to lower the boom on DC miscreants. I’m not sure what that means, but the Mueller investigation is over, so maybe we will see... I've been following this thing religiously and I can tell you that that is absolutely true. Any move to declassify key documents (like the FISA warrant) or "investigate the investigators" that would expose the whole thing as a hoax would have been viewed as Trump "obstructing" the Mueller probe (that's a political judgment, not a legal opinion). Again, that was the whole point of Mueller: cover up the misdeeds of Obama's DOJ/FBI and string along the "collusion" rumor for as long as possible to cast a cloud over the President. As long as the recused Jeff Sessions remained AG, leaving Rod Rosenstein in charge of all things Russia related, the ruse went on indefinitely. With Bill Barr in as AG, it is not coincidental that the jig is up.
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Post by MDDad on Mar 30, 2019 8:55:55 GMT -8
"Thry’re Like those Bible interpreting millenialists who predicted the end of the world on January 1, 2000. When nothing happened suddenly it was “Well, we went back and realized we miscalculated the secret code. Now we know the world will actually end on............”"
Yep, like the end of the world according to GORE has been extended by AOC another 12 years...! Bwahahhaaaaa! Guys, let's at least give them credit for being half right. The end of the world is an undeniable fact. They're just a little off on the date. And speaking figuratively, the world will almost surely end on the day AOC is elected president.
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Post by Credo on Mar 30, 2019 11:56:47 GMT -8
Don't expect TOB to react any differently.
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Post by MDDad on Mar 30, 2019 12:52:35 GMT -8
What's most amusing about the usual suspects on TOB is that they are taking exactly the same position they so vehemently criticized after the Benghazi and email investigations -- refusing to accept the results and insisting that what they really want will be discovered if we just keep looking. Instead of being happy and relieved that their president did not collude with a foreign enemy to impact an election, they are disappointed and petulant about it. It takes a special kind of American to find joy in the prospect that their president might be a traitor.
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Post by Bick on Mar 30, 2019 18:38:15 GMT -8
Yeah but this is different
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Post by MDDad on Apr 8, 2019 16:21:31 GMT -8
I know we like to think of ourselves as somehow better than the usual suspects on TOB, not so much because of our beliefs, but rather because of our behaviors. And it's true, we spend a lot of time actually discussing things, while they have been reduced to nothing more than belittling and insulting Trump and his supporters in every post they write.
But I recently read an essay by presidential biographer and TIME contributor Jon Meacham on the subject of intense partisan differences, and he used three quotes that I think are worth thinking about:
The first is by Walter Lippman, a writer and political commentator who wrote in 1922, "We can best understand the furies of war and politics by remembering that almost the whole of each party believes absolutely in its picture of the opposition, that it takes as fact, not what is, but what it supposes to be the fact."
The second is by Jane Addams, one of the great American progressives in the first third of the 20th Century. She wrote, "We know instinctively that if we grow contemptuous of our fellows, and consciously limit our intercourse to certain kinds of people whom we have previously decided to respect, we not only tremendously circumscribe our range of life, but limit the scope of our ethics."
And Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1798, "In every free and deliberating society, there must, from the nature of man, be opposite parties, and violent dissensions and discords, and one of these, for the most part, must prevail over the other for a longer or shorter time. I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
The bolded section of Jefferson's quote proves that he should forever be memorialized as the anti-Wabash.
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Post by SK80 on Apr 8, 2019 16:33:45 GMT -8
LOL @ Anti-Wabash!
My experience is as a right leaning person I integrate well with those leaning left yet when you turn the equation around they can not reciprocate. I have lived this my entire life from the conservative shores of newport Beach and OC to the East Coast liberal coastal lands and NYC. I have even spent many a year of my youth living abroad in left leaning Europe, many a socialist country.
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Post by MDDad on Apr 8, 2019 17:35:49 GMT -8
SK, where did you live in Europe?
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Post by Luca on Apr 8, 2019 18:11:08 GMT -8
I know we like to think of ourselves as somehow better than the usual suspects on TOB, not so much because of our beliefs, but rather because of our behaviors.......... Actually, I think it's more likely because they haven't set the bar all that high...........Luca
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Post by SK80 on Apr 8, 2019 18:19:11 GMT -8
SK, where did you live in Europe? Spent much time in Paris and Milan, Paris was my second home from '86 - '90..., in fact I was permanently moving tp Paris in late '89 until my fiancé' at the time got cold feet and moved back home to London w/ her parents.... but thats for another forum! Bick you interested in starting a new forum called "HEARTBREAK HOTEL"....
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