Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 24, 2019 23:20:24 GMT -8
I'm reprising this topic that I originally started at TOB, so that when Flynn's case gets dismissed due to government misconduct, I can say "I told you so!"
Flynn's leaked phone call with the Russian ambassador (which conversation was completely appropriate) and his subsequent firing was at the origin of the Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax and his was the first scalp in Robert Mueller's sham probe. The fact that his case has not yet been brought to conclusion is telling.
Some pretty interesting developments in the latest filing from Flynn's new counsel Sidney Powell.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 25, 2019 8:39:27 GMT -8
Mike Flynn was set up.
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duke
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Post by duke on Oct 25, 2019 9:35:28 GMT -8
Mr. Flynn was targeted by the Obama Administration for his opposition to one of Obamas legacy achievements, the Iran Deal, and the fear that Mr. Flynn would tell all that he knew as a member of the newly elected Trump Administration. Shows what kind of person our ex-President really is.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 25, 2019 9:46:37 GMT -8
Wow, The speculation just gets crazier by the minute.
Do you guys just make this shit up when you drink too much or does it come to you in your dreams?
What kept Flynn from telling all that he knew at any given moment? What's keeping him quiet now? Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your conclusions?
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MDDad
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Post by MDDad on Oct 25, 2019 9:54:20 GMT -8
It's hilarious that VP would comment on the speculation getting crazier on this board. He comes from a forum where in just two threads (the Inevitable Disaster thread and the Daily WTF thread) there have been almost 6,000 posts of daily speculation and jumping the gun, and he has contributed to much of that circus.
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tarmac
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Post by tarmac on Oct 25, 2019 10:05:21 GMT -8
Wow, The speculation just gets crazier by the minute. Do you guys just make this shit up when you drink too much or does it come to you in your dreams? What kept Flynn from telling all that he knew at any given moment? What's keeping him quiet now? Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your conclusions? It's showtime little hall monitor. Q |
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Post by duke on Oct 25, 2019 11:35:16 GMT -8
Wow, The speculation just gets crazier by the minute. Do you guys just make this shit up when you drink too much or does it come to you in your dreams? What kept Flynn from telling all that he knew at any given moment? What's keeping him quiet now? Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your conclusions? Not speculation VP. The truth is starting to come out and I'm delighted you've escaped from your safe space and can actually see the light of day and see what kind of people the Left actually are. I'm going to enjoy watching you squirm and deflect as it all comes out without the MSM filter. |
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Post by SK80 on Oct 25, 2019 11:40:45 GMT -8
It's hilarious that VP would comment on the speculation getting crazier on this board. He comes from a forum where in just two threads (the Inevitable Disaster thread and the Daily WTF thread) there have been almost 6,000 posts of daily speculation and jumping the gun, and he has contributed to much of that circus.  |
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 25, 2019 13:06:26 GMT -8
Of course it is. Total speculation, and bizarre at that.
The truth has not yet started coming out...the criminal investigation has just begun...the investigators don't yet know what the truth is so how could it be coming out?
No doubt. Too bad you don't have more impressive motives. Keep dreaming.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 25, 2019 13:07:18 GMT -8
Ahh MDdad, just can't help yourself can you.
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Post by duke on Oct 25, 2019 13:35:15 GMT -8
Like I said earlier VP, I'm delighted you have chosen to abandon your safe space and are joining us to see what the past Administration really has put this country through. Keep tuning in and we'll do our best to enlighten you.
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Credo
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Post by Credo on Oct 25, 2019 23:54:39 GMT -8
Whatever the outcome of Flynn's case, at the very least the FBI needs to enter the 21st century and record all interviews. Using agent's notes as a basis for prosecuting a retired Lt. General (or anyone else) for an alleged "false statement" about perfectly legal activities is ripe for abuse and simply human error. Michael Flynn's life has been turned upside down--and the nation put through the ringer--on the basis of a he said, he said.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 26, 2019 3:02:44 GMT -8
The nation has been put through the ringer over Michael Flynn? I think you over-inflate his importance. I'll remind you of a few facts that are a matter of record: Flynn's attorneys submitted a sentencing memo on December 11, 2018, requesting leniency and suggesting FBI agents had tricked him into lying during the January 24, 2017, White House interview and did not advise him that lying to federal agents is a felony. The memo also asserted that Flynn's relaxed behavior during the interview indicated he was being truthful. Trump echoed this assertion two days later on Twitter and Fox News, asserting, “They convinced him he did lie, and he made some kind of a deal.”
Mueller's office rejected these assertions the next day, stating agents had told Flynn portions of what he had discussed with Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak to jog his memory, but Flynn did not waver from his false statements. FBI agents concluded that Flynn's relaxed behavior during the interview was actually because he was fully committed to his lies and therefore could be compromised by the Kremlin. Mueller's office also documented instances when Flynn lied about the Kislyak conversation during the days before the FBI interview. Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ordered documents related to the interview be provided to him prior to Flynn's December 18 sentencing. The New York Times reported that Flynn's “decision to attack the FBI in his own plea for probation appeared to be a gambit for a pardon from Mr. Trump, whose former lawyer had broached the prospect last year with a lawyer for Mr. Flynn.”
Sullivan rebuked Flynn at his December 18 sentencing hearing. Citing evidence not released to the public, the judge told him, "arguably you sold your country out", and warned, "I cannot assure that if you proceed today you will not receive a sentence of incarceration." He offered to delay the sentencing until Flynn's cooperation with investigators was complete. After conferring with his attorneys, Flynn accepted the delay. During the hearing, Sullivan indicated he was offended by the suggestion in the sentencing memo submitted by Flynn's attorneys that the FBI had misled Flynn, as it created an appearance that Flynn wanted to both accept a generous plea deal from prosecutors while also contending he had been entrapped. He asked several questions of Flynn's attorney, Robert Kelner, to determine if the defense was maintaining that the FBI had acted improperly in its investigation of Flynn, including whether he had been entrapped. Kelner responded, "No, your honor" to each question. Flynn acknowledged to Sullivan that he was aware that lying to federal investigators was a crime at the time of his initial FBI interview in January 2017. Sullivan then delayed sentencing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Flynn
I'll point out again that the judge heard Flynn's excuses that the FBI entrapped him and the judge wasn't having it. He cited evidence not released to the public and told Flynn he had arguably sold out his government. I don't wish to be rude but there's no point in pretending that Flynn was set up by anyone. Also, it's a bit late to have his case "dismissed"...he was already found guilty of a felony. He's now awaiting sentencing. If he wishes for a clean slate he'll have to get the verdict vacated, or get trump to issue a pardon.
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Post by vilepagan on Oct 26, 2019 3:06:01 GMT -8
I'm delighted to read your humorous and hallucinatory musings about Obama and the dreaded liberals...quite amusing what you people believe.
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Post by coach on Oct 26, 2019 9:55:27 GMT -8
You see, Gomer Vile....that's I'm glad you are here. For normal decent Americans to read what an ill-informed doofus you are. Keep up the good work!
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