SK80
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Post by SK80 on Mar 20, 2020 6:43:21 GMT -8
Traitor is a moron, idiot, buffoon, stupid, a liar and a traitor who is bungling this emergency as of course he would being in way over his head. Just last week it was nothing and would burn out by April. This week now he says he always called it a "pandemic" before anyone else. He is such a liar. How can you trust anything he says? Anything. Appears you have fallen into the minority..... Majority of Americans now say they approve of Trump's handling of coronavirus: poll thehill.com/homenews/administration/488597-majority-of-americans-approve-of-trumps-handling-of-coronavirus-poll
The majority of Americans now approve of President Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, a reversal from just one week prior, according to a new Ipsos/ABC News poll. |
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Post by Zebra on Mar 20, 2020 7:16:21 GMT -8
Traitor is a moron, idiot, buffoon, stupid, a liar and a traitor who is bungling this emergency as of course he would being in way over his head. Just last week it was nothing and would burn out by April. This week now he says he always called it a "pandemic" before anyone else. He is such a liar. How can you trust anything he says? Anything. Pretty big words for a 4 year old boy .. if you identify as something else, too bad. |
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duke
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Post by duke on Mar 20, 2020 7:52:51 GMT -8
This guy is a Troll. Still Butt-Hurt that his party lost the 2016 election and has nothing but nasty comments about The President. The big lies are from the Left and the MSM who support and feed Trolls like this. Russian collusion, their treatment of Kavanaugh, Ukraine, Biden and his family's obvious corruption. Now blaming the President for the China Virus. Sad, but par for the course.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 20, 2020 10:46:06 GMT -8
Yes I supported Obama. His latest lie where he said he called it a pandemic in the beginning before anybody else. That lie is deranged because he's on camera a few days before talking abuot how it'll die out and all be done by Apr. That lie has affected me greatly. Right now it's affected every American. In general though try to refrain from "whataboutisms". They're weak. |
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Post by bostondave on Mar 20, 2020 10:48:23 GMT -8
It's happened here too. Not a single person addressing the point. This asshole stupidly and ridiculously lied when he said he called it a pandemic before everyone else. It's crazy because anyone can see him on tv downplaying it and saying it'd be over by Apr. What kind of person lies like that?
And can anybody follow a discussion and answer points made?
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Mar 20, 2020 11:22:24 GMT -8
Yes I supported Obama. His latest lie where he said he called it a pandemic in the beginning before anybody else. That lie is deranged because he's on camera a few days before talking abuot how it'll die out and all be done by Apr. That lie has affected me greatly. Right now it's affected every American. In general though try to refrain from "whataboutisms". They're weak. Sorry, but comparisons between choices presidents / leaders make (aka whataboutisms), is how I evaluate which made the better choice(s). I also consider what choice I would have made if sitting in that chair, given the limited information I've got on the subject. If I wanted mindless hyperbole, I can find plenty of it on Twitter. So...if you were given the information available at that time, what would YOU have done then, and what would you do now? |
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Post by bostondave on Mar 20, 2020 12:42:02 GMT -8
Yes I supported Obama. His latest lie where he said he called it a pandemic in the beginning before anybody else. That lie is deranged because he's on camera a few days before talking abuot how it'll die out and all be done by Apr. That lie has affected me greatly. Right now it's affected every American. In general though try to refrain from "whataboutisms". They're weak. Sorry, but comparisons between choices presidents / leaders make (aka whataboutisms), is how I evaluate which made the better choice(s). I also consider what choice I would have made if sitting in that chair, given the limited information I've got on the subject. If I wanted mindless hyperbole, I can find plenty of it on Twitter. So...if you were given the information available at that time, what would YOU have done then, and what would you do now? I dunno, but one thing I DO know is that I wouldn't lie about what I said just the prior week. He lies stupidly. Unhinged, delusional. I mean it was just the previous week he was saying it would all blow over by April and it wasn't a big deal. OK, turns out he was wrong. Would he admit he was wrong? NO, of course not. Instead he lies about what he previously said. THAT I KNOW I would never do. What do you think is wrong with him? Clearly something mental, but what? |
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Mar 20, 2020 12:59:34 GMT -8
Are you suggesting that someone who lies has mental issues? If so, would do you suggest we do with you, err, them?
What if they lie, abuse children and are from the East Coast? What should we do with those folks?
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Mar 20, 2020 13:18:15 GMT -8
Sorry, but comparisons between choices presidents / leaders make (aka whataboutisms), is how I evaluate which made the better choice(s). I also consider what choice I would have made if sitting in that chair, given the limited information I've got on the subject. If I wanted mindless hyperbole, I can find plenty of it on Twitter. So...if you were given the information available at that time, what would YOU have done then, and what would you do now? I dunno, but one thing I DO know is that I wouldn't lie about what I said just the prior week. He lies stupidly. Unhinged, delusional. I mean it was just the previous week he was saying it would all blow over by April and it wasn't a big deal. OK, turns out he was wrong. Would he admit he was wrong? NO, of course not. Instead he lies about what he previously said. THAT I KNOW I would never do. What do you think is wrong with him? Clearly something mental, but what? Sorry for the whataboutism, but I've yet to find a politician who HAS admitted he / she was wrong. By example, I don't recall Obama walking back the statement about keeping your doctor. That was kind of an important one, right? The link I shared has someone claiming over 1,000 lies Obama told. Once I figure out why politicians lie, I'll be sure to post something here. So you're critical of what he's doing, or do you support it? |
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Post by bostondave on Mar 20, 2020 13:59:01 GMT -8
I dunno, but one thing I DO know is that I wouldn't lie about what I said just the prior week. He lies stupidly. Unhinged, delusional. I mean it was just the previous week he was saying it would all blow over by April and it wasn't a big deal. OK, turns out he was wrong. Would he admit he was wrong? NO, of course not. Instead he lies about what he previously said. THAT I KNOW I would never do. What do you think is wrong with him? Clearly something mental, but what? Sorry for the whataboutism, but I've yet to find a politician who HAS admitted he / she was wrong. By example, I don't recall Obama walking back the statement about keeping your doctor. That was kind of an important one, right? The link I shared has someone claiming over 1,000 lies Obama told. Once I figure out why politicians lie, I'll be sure to post something here. So you're critical of what he's doing, or do you support it? Politicians lie. Thats a given. Obama was better than most, if not all, regarding honesty. So you're barking up the wrong tree with that particular "whataboutism". This guy lies much more and much more stupidly. I mean why would he say such outrageously blatant bald and bold lies. He actually got on tv and said he was calling it a pandemic before everyone else. That's the kind of lie that makes you wonder about the sanity of the liar doesn't it?
You mentioned Obama a time or two. Askng me if I supported him. I answered affirmatively. But along with that support I also criticized him from time to time. So, what is wrong with Traitor and why is it that cons can't seem to criticize anything about him, not the least of the dozens of crazy things he's done and especially his pathological lying? Why?
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Mar 20, 2020 14:32:55 GMT -8
There are plenty of conservatives who criticize Trump, including members of this site. I believe your question is in reality, why don't conservatives criticize Trump the way that you want them to criticize Trump.
Well, the answer is the same as the way you criticized Obama. Since you liked the things he was doing, you gave him a break as he lied over & over and over (as was demonstrated by the link Bick gave you).
Trump isn't as great as his most ardent supporters believe he is and he definitely is nowhere as bad as you paint him to be. You are fringe and a bit unhinged.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 20, 2020 14:56:43 GMT -8
There are plenty of conservatives who criticize Trump, including members of this site. I believe your question is in reality, why don't conservatives criticize Trump the way that you want them to criticize Trump. Well, the answer is the same as the way you criticized Obama. Since you liked the things he was doing, you gave him a break as he lied over & over and over (as was demonstrated by the link Bick gave you). Trump isn't as great as his most ardent supporters believe he is and he definitely is nowhere as bad as you paint him to be. You are fringe and a bit unhinged. Give me 3 criticisms you have of Traitor. And don't just breezily handwave something like "He tweets too much". A real deal disagreement and something that's made you really criticize and really disagree with him about. |
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Mar 20, 2020 15:28:05 GMT -8
Sorry for the whataboutism, but I've yet to find a politician who HAS admitted he / she was wrong. By example, I don't recall Obama walking back the statement about keeping your doctor. That was kind of an important one, right? The link I shared has someone claiming over 1,000 lies Obama told. Once I figure out why politicians lie, I'll be sure to post something here. So you're critical of what he's doing, or do you support it? Politicians lie. Thats a given. Obama was better than most, if not all, regarding honesty. So you're barking up the wrong tree with that particular "whataboutism". This guy lies much more and much more stupidly. I mean why would he say such outrageously blatant bald and bold lies. He actually got on tv and said he was calling it a pandemic before everyone else. That's the kind of lie that makes you wonder about the sanity of the liar doesn't it?
You mentioned Obama a time or two. Askng me if I supported him. I answered affirmatively. But along with that support I also criticized him from time to time. So, what is wrong with Traitor and why is it that cons can't seem to criticize anything about him, not the least of the dozens of crazy things he's done and especially his pathological lying? Why?
There's a thread called Trump Pros & Cons that shows guys on this site with specific criticisms. I can't think of many reasonable Americans who don't cringe whenever he talks or tweets. I think there about 4-5 here that didn't vote for him, myself included. FWIW, I've been an Independent all my adult life, and nothing I've seen from either side is inspiring me to change that. My take on "lying" is different than yours. I've never been as good with mind-reading as many on the right were when calling nearly everything out of Obama's mouth a lie, or as you must be knowing that Trump intentionally lies all the time. My approach would never sell newspapers, as I'm more concerned with accurate v inaccurate, instead of the headline grabbing stuff. I believe most presidents want to deliver what they campaign on, but more often than not, fall short. When they do, the other side of the fence is quick to jump with the "liar" hyperbole. My take on that is, those who engage in that hyperbole are the ones who are truly full of crap, as they KNOW they can't read minds, but blather on anyway. |
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RSM789
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Post by RSM789 on Mar 20, 2020 20:17:49 GMT -8
Give me 3 criticisms you have of Traitor... I'll only play that game if you use his name. No use having an actual discussion about Trump if you can't raise yourself above calling him names. Re-ask the the question using his name & I'll respond. |
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Post by vilepagan on Mar 21, 2020 3:38:12 GMT -8
You've outdone yourself in blatant hypocrisy.
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