davidsf
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Post by davidsf on Mar 23, 2020 10:05:18 GMT -8
I think he figured out what activist voters want...action & entertainment. Think about every political rally, and compare / contrast it to the most popular sports, movies, or TV. Boxing v Fischer / Spassky chess match. 2 mindless guys pummeling each other v 2 geniuses competing with each other. Which commands the Pay per View, a hay maker that opens a gash above the left eye, or knight to KB4? That has been, more or less, my position on it all from the beginning. i started noticing the differences when he ran in 2016 versus his Reform Party (alleged) run in 1999. What I believe happened between then and now is, he used his massive marketing research division to investigate what American voters wanted. He tested those waters in 2012 but of course did not run, but gathered a lot of information. By 2016, his research had leeched him onto the back of the conservative humpback whale who were sitting on their couches just waiting for what it was he now knew he would say. so, I agree, what comes out of his mouth (and keyboard) is exactly what (he believes) those activists want and, with the democrats doing everything in their power to fall from Grace, I believe he will walk that same path in November. i am with MDDad in the belief he is not presidential (and in many ways, as I have stated before, childish)... but 1) I don’t think he cares anything about being “presidential” because he is positioned as a DC outsider, and 2) I think he still believes this is what the voters want.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 23, 2020 11:50:04 GMT -8
In case anyone else here is learning impaired, or gives a damn... 1. Politicians embellish, mislead, are wrong, are delusional, and lie to a greater or lesser extent. They are NOT all the same even though they may share that trait. 2. In order to differentiate which of those best represents an inaccurate statement, you would have to know with certainty the intent, or be certain what that person knows 3. Without interacting with that person, I won't likely know with certainty what that person knows. 4. I prefer to focus on whether statements are accurate v inaccurate. 5. I don't know or care whether Trump lied more than Obama. Don't know if he intended to deceive when selling his health care plan about keeping your doctor, or that prices would be lower. I do know that in some cases (like mine), he was wrong. His detractors are just are convinced he LIED, or so they say, as YOU are about Trump lying. Lastly, Dave, if you really want to have a conversation with me, you won't go down the path of inaccurately representing what I say to try to make your point. Your attempt to represent my position by conflating "all politicians lie" with "they're all the same", is inaccurate. Only you know what your intent was. Ok all politicians lie. Traitor lies the most because he's a pathological liar. You are almost in full retreat now. You're not really engaging. You're avoiding your ass off. Traitor is worse than all others by a mile. He has multiple mental and personality disorders, or certainly seems to. One of them is pathological lying. That should concern you very much especially right now. His pathological lying could personally cost you something. You are someone you know or someone you love. You should care.
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Bick
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Post by Bick on Mar 23, 2020 12:55:31 GMT -8
BD - let's just leave it at we'll agree to disagree about your assessment(s).
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Post by Bick on Mar 23, 2020 13:01:58 GMT -8
I think he figured out what activist voters want...action & entertainment. Think about every political rally, and compare / contrast it to the most popular sports, movies, or TV. Boxing v Fischer / Spassky chess match. 2 mindless guys pummeling each other v 2 geniuses competing with each other. Which commands the Pay per View, a hay maker that opens a gash above the left eye, or knight to KB4? That has been, more or less, my position on it all from the beginning. i started noticing the differences when he ran in 2016 versus his Reform Party (alleged) run in 1999. What I believe happened between then and now is, he used his massive marketing research division to investigate what American voters wanted. He tested those waters in 2012 but of course did not run, but gathered a lot of information. By 2016, his research had leeched him onto the back of the conservative humpback whale who were sitting on their couches just waiting for what it was he now knew he would say. so, I agree, what comes out of his mouth (and keyboard) is exactly what (he believes) those activists want and, with the democrats doing everything in their power to fall from Grace, I believe he will walk that same path in November. i am with MDDad in the belief he is not presidential (and in many ways, as I have stated before, childish)... but 1) I don’t think he cares anything about being “presidential” because he is positioned as a DC outsider, and 2) I think he still believes this is what the voters want.One of the richest guys in America figured out how to be supported by the working class rednecks. If you look at it from that paradigm, it makes a helluva lot more sense (to me anyway), than him being a childish buffoon because he doesn't know any better, and just happened to become the president.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Mar 23, 2020 14:18:56 GMT -8
I really don't think he does, or if he does, he doesn't care. He has a very childlike way of speaking, and a visceral, emotional, childlike way of responding to things. He may not know he's being childish any more than a 5-year-old does. Don’t you think it’s sort of like arguing with Wabash or his alter ego, here? maybe he knows it’s wrong (e.g. “childish” or another adjective), or maybe he doesn’t, but he just can’t help himself ... and possibly, as with arguing with Wabash or Bostonwabash, there is some intrinsic entertainment value he gains from aggravating the liberals and Bostonprohressives. He does have one characteristic that Wabash has, and that is repetition. Posting the same stupid thing(s) over and over and over again.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 24, 2020 9:33:54 GMT -8
BD - let's just leave it at we'll agree to disagree about your assessment(s). You ran away. Too bad. And I can swear I wrote a post saying that before. What does it mean you running away though?
**I bookmarked this one.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 24, 2020 9:35:27 GMT -8
Interesting. It's almost as if some cons here recognize Traitor has multiple personality and mental disorders. But you won't recognize him as traitor.
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Post by Bick on Mar 24, 2020 10:17:21 GMT -8
BDave - there's a few guys named Wabash, JQP, Vile, and Bongo over at www.occonnect.com/community/ who will give you a better conversation than me. Nothing personal, but I've just lost interest.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 24, 2020 10:31:20 GMT -8
BDave - there's a few guys named Wabash, JQP, Vile, and Bongo over at www.occonnect.com/community/ who will give you a better conversation than me. Nothing personal, but I've just lost interest. Yeah, I don't blame you actually.
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Post by Bick on Mar 24, 2020 13:25:04 GMT -8
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Post by bostondave on Mar 24, 2020 13:40:54 GMT -8
Nothing post.
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Post by MDDad on Mar 24, 2020 13:43:26 GMT -8
Is that a summary of your entire body of work here?
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Post by SK80 on Mar 24, 2020 13:48:19 GMT -8
Interesting. It's almost as if some cons here recognize Traitor has multiple personality and mental disorders. But you won't recognize him as traitor. Ummmm..., BostonJohnnyComeLately to this board , many here have expressed dislike for the Presidents personality traits. Again stop with the false narrative and assumptions.
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Post by bostondave on Mar 24, 2020 13:50:13 GMT -8
Interesting. It's almost as if some cons here recognize Traitor has multiple personality and mental disorders. But you won't recognize him as traitor. Ummmm..., BostonJohnnyComeLately to this board , many here have expressed dislike for the Presidents personality traits. Again stop with the false narrative and assumptions. But not a traitor?? He has asked any number of foreign countries, friend and adversary, to come meddle in our country's affairs. That's traitorous. Why doesn't that concern you cons at all?
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Post by ProfessorFate on Mar 24, 2020 15:41:44 GMT -8
Ummmm..., BostonJohnnyComeLately to this board , many here have expressed dislike for the Presidents personality traits. Again stop with the false narrative and assumptions. But not a traitor?? He has asked any number of foreign countries, friend and adversary, to come meddle in our country's affairs. That's traitorous. Why doesn't that concern you cons at all? Never happened. He asked Russia to give us back the emails that they may have stolen, and he asked Ukraine to investigate something that happened in Ukraine. Nothing wrong with that.
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