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Post by davidsf on May 18, 2020 11:59:27 GMT -8
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Post by MDDad on May 18, 2020 12:19:20 GMT -8
How can one not watch MODERN FAMILY! I watched it regularly for several years. But then the over-the-top effeminate fruitiness of the gay couple, Mitchell and Cameron, became so bad that I couldn't take it any more. |
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Post by RSM789 on May 18, 2020 16:01:02 GMT -8
How can one not watch MODERN FAMILY! I watched it regularly for several years. But then the over-the-top effeminate fruitiness of the gay couple, Mitchell and Cameron, became so bad that I couldn't take it any more. My brother didn't watch it for the same reason. However, I took the over-the-top gayness as a poke at the gay community, just like how they made fun of every other group. I found they had no sacred cows in their writing. |
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Post by davidsf on May 19, 2020 11:22:45 GMT -8
You might not know him, but I do: I have enjoyed and supported and conveyed his teaching on Scripture for many years. I’m not distressed at his passing: He has known his destination for a long time and, fighting cancer as he was, it is much better that he is there now. An Obituary on the life of Ravi Zacharias
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Post by ProfessorFate on May 19, 2020 11:53:00 GMT -8
You might not know him, but I do: I have enjoyed and supported and conveyed his teaching on Scripture for many years. I’m not distressed at his passing: He has known his destination for a long time and, fighting cancer as he was, it is much better that he is there now. An Obituary on the life of Ravi Zacharias
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Post by davidsf on Jul 6, 2020 9:43:49 GMT -8
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jul 7, 2020 23:35:30 GMT -8
Mary Kay Letourneau has passed away from cancer at the young age of 58. She was a troubled young woman, who let her heart overrule her brain. I had some connections to her, though I didn't actually know her. The Lord forgives mistakes and I pray He welcomes her into Heaven.
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Post by vilepagan on Jul 8, 2020 2:00:30 GMT -8
Mary Kay Letourneau has passed away from cancer at the young age of 58. She was a troubled young woman, who let her heart overrule her brain. I had some connections to her, though I didn't actually know her. The Lord forgives mistakes and I pray He welcomes her into Heaven. Mary Kay Letourneau was a pedophile. She raped a 12 year-old child, and you're hear claiming "she let her heart overrule her brain"? You have some seriously effed up ideas. |
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Post by Bick on Jul 8, 2020 8:09:31 GMT -8
It's called "grace", vile. A belief in God allows for it, and encourages the notion of redemption.
Without it, you have a cancel culture.
It would be interesting to know how many of these cancel culturists are atheists.
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Post by thefrog on Jul 8, 2020 8:18:17 GMT -8
Frankly, I’m not sure I entirely care about Mary Kay, but to each his own
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Post by RSM789 on Jul 8, 2020 9:34:53 GMT -8
Mary Kay Letourneau was a pedophile. She raped a 12 year-old child... Legally, you are correct. However, remember that she became pregnant from that 12 year old. Our society has deemed that a 12 year old is a child, not capable of making adult decisions. However, Mother Nature deemed that that 12 year old was a man, able to reproduce. There is a conflict between when our bodies become adults and when our minds become adults. Society plays a part in that, but Luca can correct me if I am incorrect that the teenage mind is not fully formed (not the amount of knowledge it has, but how it actually functions) until well after the teenage body is. I am not advocating that people under the age of 18 be adults in current society or that what Mary Kay did be called anything but statutory rape. We do need to acknowledge that parts of us become adults before other parts and that for men, that leads to a situation where you have adult men with juvenile brains. With history having examples of societies where people became adults in their early teens, society can play a part in forcing a juvenile brain in growing up early or late. |
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Post by MDDad on Jul 8, 2020 10:10:45 GMT -8
...for men, that leads to a situation where you have adult men with juvenile brains. You've just described much of the radical left. Unfortunately, for most of them, their brains never further mature into adulthood. |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 8, 2020 11:06:02 GMT -8
It's called "grace", vile. A belief in God allows for it, and encourages the notion of redemption. Without it, you have a cancel culture. It would be interesting to know how many of these cancel culturists are atheists. Those with no notion of grace will not understand how anyone could extend it to others. our pet vile homeboy is a classic example of someone without grace in his life so, yes, he is incapable of understanding it in others: Unfortunately, he has no reference point. |
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Post by Luca on Jul 8, 2020 12:20:17 GMT -8
Mary Kay Letourneau was a pedophile. She raped a 12 year-old child... Legally, you are correct. However, remember that she became pregnant from that 12 year old. Our society has deemed that a 12 year old is a child, not capable of making adult decisions. However, Mother Nature deemed that that 12 year old was a man, able to reproduce. There is a conflict between when our bodies become adults and when our minds become adults. Society plays a part in that, but Luca can correct me if I am incorrect that the teenage mind is not fully formed (not the amount of knowledge it has, but how it actually functions) until well after the teenage body is. I am not advocating that people under the age of 18 be adults in current society or that what Mary Kay did be called anything but statutory rape. We do need to acknowledge that parts of us become adults before other parts and that for men, that leads to a situation where you have adult men with juvenile brains. With history having examples of societies where people became adults in their early teens, society can play a part in forcing a juvenile brain in growing up early or late. Normally the teenage mind is not fully developed until later but of course it varies widely. We all know adults who have lived in an intellectual suspended animation and don't seem to have learned a damn thing since they were 14 years old. But I don't understand your point. It seems like you're saying that the 12-year-old was an adult "in his body" but retained a childhood mind, thus mitigating his behavior/responsibility. But it’s not his behavior that’s in question, it’s Letourneau’s. Or maybe you were saying that she was a physical adult with a child-like mind. I don't think I can buy that justification. Maybe with a 17 or 18-year-old kid, but not a 12-year-old boy. That simply represents pathology, in my opinion. ..................................Luca |
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Post by davidsf on Jul 8, 2020 12:33:27 GMT -8
Legally, you are correct. However, remember that she became pregnant from that 12 year old. Our society has deemed that a 12 year old is a child, not capable of making adult decisions. However, Mother Nature deemed that that 12 year old was a man, able to reproduce. There is a conflict between when our bodies become adults and when our minds become adults. Society plays a part in that, but Luca can correct me if I am incorrect that the teenage mind is not fully formed (not the amount of knowledge it has, but how it actually functions) until well after the teenage body is. I am not advocating that people under the age of 18 be adults in current society or that what Mary Kay did be called anything but statutory rape. We do need to acknowledge that parts of us become adults before other parts and that for men, that leads to a situation where you have adult men with juvenile brains. With history having examples of societies where people became adults in their early teens, society can play a part in forcing a juvenile brain in growing up early or late. Normally the teenage mind is not fully developed until later but of course it varies widely. We all know adults who have lived in an intellectual suspended animation and don't seem to have learned a damn thing since they were 14 years old. But I don't understand your point. It seems like you're saying that the 12-year-old was an adult "in his body" but retained a childhood mind, thus mitigating his behavior/responsibility. But it’s not his behavior that’s in question, it’s Letourneau’s. Or maybe you were saying that she was a physical adult with a child-like mind. I don't think I can buy that justification. Maybe with a 17 or 18-year-old kid, but not a 12-year-old boy. That simply represents pathology, in my opinion. ..................................Luca I’m sure we each know some folks whose minds submit to their emotions or wants. seems to me neither the 12 year old boy nor Mary Kay LeTourneau has a maturity level needed to properly assess right from wrong in that instance: He, because his mind has not matured to the point, yet, and she because her desire to get her button off over-rides her rational decision-making. I also submit she COULD HAVE gone out and found her an equally horny 20-something stud who would have been more than willing to sand down her edges, but she did not, which makes me wonder if her psyche was more on a 12 year old level. none of these hypotheses mitigates her behavior. She chose and, then, she paid the consequences. But Professor wishing her grace would seem the appropriate stand to take, now that she has passed. |
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