Sunset 2021

I really like what those guys at Sunset rewind are doing. Easily the most in depth HS football coverage around.

It was 1992 and 1993.

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What about CDM in the power 5/6/8? They have beat people up on their way up divisions for the last 5 years. In the current format, rankings at the end of the year, I would rather see Orange County separate (besides the Trinity). The OC could have three compelling divisions, the match ups would matter, and the gate would be good.

I was just saying CDM should mentioned with the top public schools. They were able to capitalize and get a couple of championships in the lower divisions before getting moved up. But they are now among the best in the county. I wonder if schools will tank or schedule to lose early so they have a legit chance to play for a championship in a division that does not include Mater Dei or Bosco.


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Exactly. I was just commenting on CDM because the CDM guy did not mention them in his super league of OC publics. Maybe he was tanking. I think separation is the only answer to this dilemma. I’m not anti parochial schools. They’re just playing a different game at this point.


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I'll assume I am the CDM guy..... 

sixthman, if you read my take on the OC Power 5 or a league of OC public schools, it was so much a "best of" but a take on publics that run now programs more similar to privates in which they are creating their uber HSF teams. I think we can all agree the school best at leading the way over the years has been Mission Viejo. There was once a time when San Clemente was the opposite, "One Town One Team". To stay competitive SC deviated from their moniker. To me the power teams would reflect more so the "destination schools" or schools whom are now made up of students athletes whom have little concern playing locally but at a program that best advances their football careers. 

For years we have had that debate, the way it was versus the way it is, threads about "transfers" and all that. I left CDM out not based on their performance, ranking, quality of program but how they choose to run it (to date). If you haven't followed the OC Register, OC  Varsity and Twitter the past few months I don't see any articles or tweets on this DB transfers to this school, and this RB going to that school, and these two guys going over here, QB XYZ goes to..... multiple SJB and MD leave for..... CDM.

Again, my OC POWER LEAGUE was just an idea, one I have thought of for years based on a model that may one day be able to compete with the privates. CDM has had much success, yes, and over the years would have had even more had they not run into each year the privates that just play by a different program model, Sierra Canyon and Grace Brethren each took a CIF championship from CDM with their recruited teams.

As for tanking, is it possible under the new CIF playoff format? Certainly. I don't think however it will be a tanking in a game like throwing a game away with intention, rather tanking on scheduling in which you take on a team or two which would likely result in a loss or two. A loss or two will keep you out of OPEN or D1 for sure. Essentially, a soft schedule now could really hurt come playoffs with a bloated record. 

SK80, a few observations:

(1) While building a league of the county's best teams is doable, creating that league based on "how they build their program" is not. That opens a can of worms of accusations, innuendo and hard feelings.

(2) If you create that elite league (e.g. Mission Viejo, San Clemente, Corona del Mar, La Habra, Los Alamitos and Edison), what happens at the end of the regular season? Is there a playoffs, and whom do they play? Each other?

(3) The playoff structure is currently based on the Calpreps power ratings at the end of the regular season. That system takes strength of schedule into account. So beating a creampuff or losing to a powerhouse have roughly the same effect on a team's ranking.

(4) Perhaps one reason Corona del Mar hasn't employed "a different program model" (which I assume means enrolling skilled transfers to fill specific needs) is because a residence in CdM's enrollment area costs a trillion dollars and most "transfer" type families can't afford that.