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Post by Bick on Jul 12, 2021 19:42:11 GMT -8
Probably just me and you on this, SK80. Not sure if you've seen Alex Crawford's Sunset Rewind, but it's pretty damn good. Production quality and content rivals what we've seen recently on OCV. Follow them on Twitter.
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Post by SK80 on Jul 13, 2021 5:31:10 GMT -8
Possibly just us two Bick as those Trinity guys don't acknowledge much outside their league!  Yes, I'm very aware of the guys at Sunset Rewind, they have been on campus often recently and were at the BOSCO 8 INVITATIONAL. Ha many chances to chit chat with them. Looks good as exposure is a good thing, the obviously see a market for high school sport as well as living in a content driven world, something the local papers will now have to compete with. As professionalism works it way down the ranks NFL, NCAA next up CIF! |
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Post by Bick on Jul 13, 2021 6:54:40 GMT -8
I don't think the local papers care much any more. Guardabacio and Fiddler do something similar with 562.org,and Jon Khamis does his camp tour thing, but he charges for it.
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Post by SK80 on Jul 13, 2021 13:55:32 GMT -8
Khamis does "Camp Chronicles" and I admire him for doing it, he tries to piggy back off the OCVarsity guys....., this group has no funding to do better, not sure where these guys get money from but they have sets etc and seem to be putting cash out to do this...
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Post by MDDad on Jul 17, 2021 18:15:49 GMT -8
With Los Alamitos' new QB coaching hire, it sounds like they may be putting themselves in a position for challenging the all-time record for Sunset League championships. Going into this fall, it's:
Anaheim - 21
Edison - 20
Los Alamitos - 15
Fountain Valley - 9
Esperanza - 8
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Post by Bick on Jul 17, 2021 18:58:20 GMT -8
That's wild that anaheim was in the sunset.
Do you know the original orange county leagues? Orange, sunset,?
That aside, do you really believe Danny is going to be that big a difference?
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Post by MDDad on Jul 17, 2021 21:30:36 GMT -8
I think the better a quarterback is (or any athlete is) the less important a position coach is.
I'm not sure what you mean by "original" Orange County leagues. But here are the early ones:
Orange League, 1920-present (Anaheim, Fullerton, Santa Ana and Huntington Beach High Schools all started out in this league.)
Sunset League, 1937-present
Freeway League, 1958-present
Angelus League, 1961-1991
Crestview League, 1962-1973
Irvine League, 1964-1973
Garden Grove League, 1966-present
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Post by Bick on Jul 17, 2021 21:36:58 GMT -8
That's great stuff.
Do you know who the original sunset league teams were in yr 1?
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Post by MDDad on Jul 18, 2021 6:34:50 GMT -8
That's great stuff. Do you know who the original sunset league teams were in yr 1? In 1937, the Sunset League final standings were: Excelsior, 4-1 Anaheiim, 3-1-1 Newport Harbor, 3-1-1 Orange, 1-2-2 Huntington Beach, 1-4 Long Beach Jordan, 1-4 Not only was my alma mater in the Sunset, they were the KINGS of the Sunset. Between 1939 and 1964, they won 17 of the 26 league titles. |
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Post by Bick on Jul 18, 2021 8:18:48 GMT -8
I'd lose a lot of money if someone were to bet me that LB Jordan was ever in the sunset league.
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Post by SK80 on Jul 18, 2021 8:32:30 GMT -8
I'd lose a lot of money if someone were to bet me that LB Jordan was ever in the sunset league. Why? They have better sunsets than Anaheim! |
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Post by Bick on Jul 23, 2021 10:38:44 GMT -8
Fountain Valley football in a nose dive following the resignation of their coach just now. They were already in the hurt locker, and are now asking out of the Sunset placement. Not sure who would replace them with the new coastal / surf arrangement. Might be best to have the top level of the sunset be a 4 or 5 team league at this point. HB / FV are not really competitive in football with the rest.
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Post by ProfessorFate on Jul 24, 2021 1:38:47 GMT -8
How about we trade you Mater Dei for Fountain Valley?
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Post by Bick on Jul 24, 2021 3:40:00 GMT -8
I think a better fit would be you guys.
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Post by SK80 on Jul 24, 2021 6:08:10 GMT -8
How about this, been thinking about it for some time, a radio interview I heard the other day made my thought solidify even more. Stoops was one sports radio discussing his "away" life from college football, coaching etc.., when the conversation went to the present and hot topics like paid college athletes and the big money needed in college sports to keep athletic programs alive and the discussion got deep into the future of college football and what it might look like.
What really stood out on this drive on the 405 through Southern California was when Stoops popped off Mater Dei, SJB, IMG, Aquinas in a discussion about super powers like the SEC. The thought process was like this, you see the top pulling away, so far away that they will likely be leaving and forming their own leagues somewhere along the lines of SUPER LEAGUES under their own rules abandoning the establishment. Good bye NCAA. In high school in states like California, good bye CIF. Professionalism has now been elevated in college football and it has made its way to the high school level. Talk of Texas, Oklahoma and USC leaving their respected conferences to join the new super type league no longer sanctioned by NCAAA was not debated as a possibility but a "when", as in when will this happen.
Without getting side tracked here, what I had been mulling about in my mind, like Trinity League, might we see a new uber league amongst public schools one day? My thought was a Orange County "PUBLIC POWER 5 LEAGUE". Those schools that want to play football and use all means available to create uber teams need apply. So when Bick says why doesn't Fountain Valley at the bottom of the Sunset heap just leave, why doesn't Los Alamitos at the top not be the one to leave and balance out the league?
Its beyond known that a Los Al or Mission Viejo run a program that no way mirrors what most or many public schools do in high school football. What they are more so mirroring is what most Trinity League schools run, the Trinity has through these means created the best top to bottom football leagues in the nation.
How about this Bick, "OC POWER 5" I think you could start without a doubt Los Alamitos, Mission Viejo and San Clemente. I would add La Habra as well. The last spot would likely be Edison. Now doesn't this sound more equitable? More interesting and entertaining? Fair to the student athletes? When you see public schools forming uber teams why in the heck if you are a parent at Fountain Valley cheering for your child to play football in the Sunset League? You don't.
Like college football, high school parody and equity is an issue. Nobody wants to see 49-0 halftime scores any longer, fans don't want it and parents are not going to subject their kids to it any longer on the path we are on. Through student movement there has been a thinning of the herds. Not even old public powers like Long Beach Poly and Centennial are what they were losing too many student athletes to the privates.
Certainly there is no cure all or perfect solution, I do think the present playoff format will prove a bit more equitable. However the train has left the station on building uber programs at the high school level, the race to attract players, pay prestigious coaches is here to stay. The days of making the best with the kids on your block and being coached by the schools math or gym teacher are over.
So how about Bick? "OC POWER 5" !!!!!
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